NOTICIAS 2008 Votos Opciones

[Jordi G.S.]

J*der...ahora entiendo el cabreo de Richards con Williams. Éstos no sólo no lo querian por usar chasis de McLaren, sino que encima se "aprovechan" de sus patrocinadores...

"Speed does not kill, but a sudden lack of it does." - Henry Labouchere

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[RD-170]

Perdonad por el off-topic, pero en la página anterior dije "a ver si rinol es capaz de hacer un nuevo chasis". Esto no quiere decir que vayan a hacer uno nuevo. Simplemente es lo que deseo.

Está claro que la filosofía del F2007, no vale. Han empezado de nuevo y el 2008 tampoco vale, al menos con los datos que tenían antes de fichar a FA.

FA lo está poniendo a su gusto y para esto es casi seguro que haya que evolucionar el chasis y por increible que parezca modificarlo entero.

Lo que si es seguro y que he leído por ahí es que la suspensión trasera entera la van a cambiar después de Barhein en los 3 días de entrenos que tienen después del GP.

Con todo este movimiento puede suceder dos cosas a) que acierten y se enganchen al grupo de arriba que se equivoquen y se arrastren lastimosamente del décimo para abajo.

En todo caso este año a sufrir o disfrutar con Kimi y Kova , a ver si pincha el niño.

[RD-170]

De nuestro amigo Carlos Miguel:

El R28 no es un mal coche, lo que sucede es que no ha evolucionado en absoluto desde su debut en pista. Es, a día de hoy, y Super Aguri al margen, el monoplaza que menos mejoras ha presentado desde que rodara por primera vez. Por eso Fernando Alonso llegará a Australia con el cuarto coche de la parrilla. En su debut era más rápido que BMW y Red Bull. Ahora los alemanes lo han superado y el equipo de las bebidas energéticas es una seria amenaza a una vuelta. Pero el Mundial es muy largo y aún es pronto para que cunda el desánimo. De hecho, Renault tiene un plan para mejorar su nuevo monoplaza medio segundo por vuelta y acercarle a los puestos de podio.

Alonso les ha presentado todas sus dudas sobre el nuevo monoplaza y su principal problema de origen está en las suspensiones. Al eliminar de un plumazo el concepto R27, que al asturiano no le disgustaba, se han perdido algunas de sus virtudes, como una capacidad de tracción superior. Pero se ha ganado en una menor capacidad de desgaste.

Ahora llega el momento de conseguir más tracción (algo solucionado en parte por el último retoque de la suspensión trasera estrenado en Barcelona) y, sobre todo, calentar bien los duros neumáticos Bridgestone para calificación y las primeras vueltas de carrera. La escudería francesa trabaja a fondo en una suspensión que puede ser clave y que piensan estrenar en Barcelona. Se trata de un sistema similar al que estrenó McLaren el año pasado y que tan buen resultado le dio en calificación y a la salida de las curvas lentas. Ferrari tiene una geometría similar en su F2008 y su efecto es parecido al que se lograba con los prohibidos mass damper. Si el neumático se adapta mejor a las irregularidades de la pista, pierde menos adherencia y mejora sus curvas de desgaste.

Estos cambios deberían probarlos el asturiano y Nelsinho Piquet en los tres días de pruebas que se celebrarán en Montmeló después de Bahrain (14, 15 y 16 de abril), junto a unos profundos cambios aerodinámicos. En ese aspecto se está intentando limitar el subviraje congénito que perjudica la agilidad del coche.

Se ha intentado, sin éxito, con un nuevo morro. Ahora se están ensayando nuevas soluciones en el túnel de viento para mejorar este aspecto y ayudar también a la generación de carga aerodinámica en las curvas lentas. Lo malo para Renault es que les falta tiempo, y que si fallan en su ofensiva, la temporada estará perdida. De momento su estrella, Alonso, mantiene la fe en su escudería.

Fuente:

http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/formula-automovilismo-deportes/dasmot/20080306dasdaimot_2/Tes[URL-NOMBRE]As

[KIT]

Joooder con el Superentendido... tiene hasta datos de geometrías del F2008 en comparativa con el R28... A ver si la maFIA lo va a sancionar por espionaje!!!

Pero si lo dice el manager de Kimi… habrá que creerselo.

A veces cuando quieres defender algo o alguien lo que provocas es dejarlo con el culo al aire… en fin.

Y yo que le estoy cogiendo cariño al Super.

RD-170 Sorry no te había entendido, pues mucho me temo que tu deseo no es posible ni viable hasta el próximo año, por lo menos en cuanto a chasis, y en cuanto a las posibles mejoras o evoluciones habrá que esperar a ver que tal empieza Renault y podremos saber si están lejos o cerca de mejorar, que sinceramente creo que por potencial (y por sus rivales) por lo menos tienen margen para acabar siendo el 3er equipo en discordia si es que no lo son ya en Melbourne.



Salu2 a todos y...
FORÃ?A PEDRO!!!

[Tenettor]

Sobre el tema de la presión y Hamilton, y haciendo un poco de abogado del diablo, hay que decir en su descargo que muchas de las cosas que se dicen en una entrevista son esterotipos que se utilizan muchas veces sin pensar... Lo que en esta ocasión me hace gracia y en general en sus apreciaciones (y esto que voy a decir es una opinión personal) es su tonillo en las declaraciones y es que el tío habla como el que viene de tener una experiencia del carajo a lo largo de su vida, y hombre, eres un chaval de cuantos ¿23 años? y a esa edad se piensa que ya se puede con todo... en fin es algo normal de la edad.

Por otro lado nadie niega que el tío tenga talento, que lo tiene y mucho, tanto como su arrogancia, y este hecho normalmente retrasa el integrar experiencia...

[RD-170]

No te preocupes KIT,yo no había sido claro con mi mensaje con anterioridad.

Solo espero y deseo que esta temporada sea como mínimo igual de emocionante que la del año pasado. No me apetece nada que arrase el niño.

[Omega]

Alain Prost: "Alonso estará cerca de Ferrari"



"Pienso que Lewis estará arriba. Si tiene un buen coche, no creo que sea un problema. Ahora tiene más experiencia. Veremos cómo puede manejar esta presión suplementaria".

"Los Ferrari siempre estarán ahí (...) Esto depende de si Kimi (Raikkonen) tiene o no, la misma motivación que el año pasado. Fernando Alonso estará un poco por detrás, pero muy cerca."

Alain Prost, tetracampeón del mundo de Fórmula 1, en una entrevista concedida a la BBC. [/b]

[flyinfinn2]

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Ferrari, McLaren and BMW didn’t show their cards

Who has hidden their game better?

The teams that are contenders to win in Australia hidden their game in the last big testing session before the start of the season. Both Ferrari and McLaren, but also BMW, didn’t do the slightest attempt to put laptimes that would impress their opponents, therefore last week’s tests ended up with Trulli topping the times, beating Hamilton, while Coulthard and Rosberg got the following places.

To find the first Ferrari, Raikkonen’s, we have to go down until we reach the ninth time of the week, while Massa was only 13th, behind even Fisichella’s Force India, and the visiting Schumacher got the 15th time, more than 1,6s second behind Trulli. As for the BMW drivers, Kubica was the quickest with the 14th time of the week, while Heidfeld only got the 19th place in the times table, which shows well how far the germans also hidden their game.

Ferrari remains stronger

With the top constructors revealing little about the team’s momentum, it was necessary to observe closely the Grand Prix simulations to get a better picture on the ability of each car and driver two weeks before the World Championship starts. And it was again very clear that Kimi Raikkonen is the strongest right now, even if his only Grand Prix simulation was briefly interrupted by a gearbox problem, after only six laps.

But when the finnish came back to the track he shown an impressive rhythm, so much that his best lap of the week was the last lap of his “Grand Prix”. No-one else could lap in under 1m22s in race conditions, but Raikkonen managed 1m21,7s in his best lap, after having done the final laps of his simulation around 1m21,9s.

Without the new aerodynamics, but with new mechanical components, namely in the hydraulic system and in the gearbox, Massa did two Grand Prix simulations, and if the first had on average times 0,3s slower than Raikkonen’s, the second was not so good, with the brazilian complaining about having to pass many slow drivers in most of the laps, but also admitting to commit some mistakes.

Hamilton isn’t far

In McLaren both MP4/23 were also in different configurations, with Hamilton testing more new aero bits – namely a new rear wing. Both drivers did short stints, lapping with less fuel than usual despite being far from running on qualifying conditions, so it was also in the longer stints that we saw the true potential of McLaren.

In these conditions it was Hamilton who impressed more. The englishman did his only Grand Prix simulation of the week at the same time Massa was doing a similar attempt (his second and worst attempt), being consistently quicker than Ferrari’s driver. Hamilton ran in similar times to Massa’s previous day race simulation, but was also far from the times Raikkonen put in his last day of work.

Big fight for third place

The fight for third place between constructors seems to have opened itself to five teams, even if the general consensus is that BMW and Williams have an advantage over their rivals. But Toyota, Red Bull and Renault aren’t very far, which anticipates a very emotive fight for the last six available places between the top 10 in qualifying, and the last four points-scoring places in the initial part of the championship.

In Barcelona it was Trulli who amazed everyone by being clearly the fastest on track, but if the italian admitted to have ran in qualifying conditions, there was an idea on the air that his TF108 was below the minimum weight when he scored the 1m20,801s lap, because out of the blue the veteran driver removed half a second from his best time until then.

The fact Glock was 1,3s away from team-mate reinforced that idea, but by observing the track we got the idea that the TF108 has evolved a lot and if Trulli already found a good setup for his chassis, the GP2 champion is yet to find the best setup tweaks for his driving style.

In Williams the new aero package was only available on the last two days of testing, but Rosberg was again impressive in the shorter lap stints. On the other hand, for once, their speed in race conditions was clearly inferior to Ferrari and McLaren, even if the german and Nakajima kept running in competitive times.

BMW’s consistency

Who only ran in race conditions was BMW, since their F1.08 cars always went to the track with 60 kilos of fuel on board. This means that in qualifying conditions (with only eight kilos on board), their drivers could’ve been 1,6s quicker than the case, leaving in the air the idea that the german cars are right now the third most competitive of the pack.

In Red Bull it was Coulthard who ran more with the new aero bits, despite Webber having tested them in the day the scottish driver had to rest (see separate news), and the team liked the improvements in development. Now in Renault, the new bits tried by Alonso ended up being discarded for the last testing afternoon, leaving the idea that they didn’t work on track as the team expected, which might justify the more pessimistic words by the spaniard, which we have a separate news story for.

Finally, Toro Rosso had only one car with new mechanical bits, showing itself more reliable than in the previous tests, while Honda did many kilometres and tested new wings and deflectors, without, however, managing to develop in a clear way the little competitive RA108.

written by Luís Vasconcelos in Montmeló



Team Mclaren Mercedes.
contacto: flyinfinn2@hotmail.com [/b]

[accitano]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65520[URL-NOMBRE]Bridgestone, a petición de los equipos, marcará también los neumáticos de lluvia extrema.

De este modo, el aficionado, que desde el año pasado, puede diferenciar fácilmente entre el uso de neumáticos blandos y duros en condiciones de seco. Podrá, ahora, distinguir los neumáticos de mojado entre el mixto y el extremo.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autosport.com%2Fnews%2Freport.php%2Fid%2F65520[URL-NOMBRE]Autosport.com (Traducción by Google)

Saludos.

"Cada tanto viene bien una derrota" Frank Williams.
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[ocko]

Perdona Accitano, ¿que paso con ese cuestionario que hicimos para Pedro?

¿Ya las contestó y no me he enterado o todavia estamos a la espera de que pueda hacerlo?

Metal Up your Ass !!!!!

[accitano]

Falta poco para que este totalmente completado. A ver si para cuando terminen las reformas en la web lo tenemos.

Saludos.

"Cada tanto viene bien una derrota" Frank Williams.
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[tenista]

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/motor/formula1/prueba/es/desarrollo/1098344.html[URL-NOMBRE]HAMILTON "MAS MOTIVADO, INCLUSO QUE EL AÑO PASADO"

[ocko]

Ok, gracias.

Metal Up your Ass !!!!!

[`]

Stepney critical of his handling by the FIA

By Biranit Goren Saturday, March 8th 2008, 15:30 GMT

Nigel Stepney has welcomed the FIA's announcement that it cannot official sanction the former Ferrari mechanic, but he slammed the governing body for its handling of his affair over the past six months.

The FIA said yesterday it could not ban Stepney from working on motor racing, since he is not a sanctioned license holder.

Nevertheless, the governing body issued a recommendation to all its license holders to consider carefully if they should collaborate with the Briton prior to July 1st 2009.

Reacting to the FIA's statement, Stepney said today he was "delighted that the FIA have backed down" from their threat to ban him from motorsport but criticised the fact it took the FIA several months to reach this conclusion.

"They may want to do some due diligence themselves before simply accepting one side of the story," Stepney said in a statement released by his lawyers in the UK.

According to the statement, Stepney himsef "admits that a former McLaren engineer and friend of 20 years had obtained very limited information as a result of his carelessness".

"Frankly, I should have known better," Stepney was quoted as saying. "But it sure as hell wasn't the 780-page dossier the FIA saw, and which I've just been shown for the first time by the Italian authorities."

Stepney is under criminal investigation in Italy for suspected industrial espionage against his then-employers Ferrari, but the veteran mechanic has maintained throughout his innocense in the matter, denying he gave McLaren then-chief desiger Mike Coughlan a dossier of 780 pages, containing confidential Ferrari information.

Sian Nath, of Stepney's UK law firm Coyle White Devine, said: "It should be noted that Mr Stepney has never admitted any dishonest intention. The FIA is fully aware of that.

"Our client blew the whistle on certain matters to FIA officials; that is not in any contention. The Italian authorities were made aware of this last month; they, too, accept his position."

Stepney himself said he was particularly frustrated by the fact that he wrote in detail to FIA president Max Mosley in August last year, and that the FIA has not met with him or since.

Stepney denied the FIA's statement, which said he had admitted to passing Ferrari secrets to McLaren employees and apologised for it.

"It'll all come out in the book," said Stepney, who plans to release his autobiography later this year.

"Right now, I'm getting on with the job that's been my life and enjoying my family, who've suffered enormously and stood by me throughout, in peace."

[tenista]

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/motor/formula1/prueba/es/desarrollo/1098609.html[URL-NOMBRE]BRIATORE "REANULT LUCHARA POR LA VICTORIA EN EL GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA"

[MarinaRM]

http://f1.informativos.telecinco.es/f1_1720.htm


Pedro,eres mágico en la pista y como comentarista.Mucho ánimo y mucha suerte en esta vida.

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Montoya: "La Fórmula Uno es aburrida y decepcionante"
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El piloto colombiano asegura que se encuentra "feliz participando en la NASCAR"
Efe - 10/03/2008 22:29

El piloto colombiano Juan Pablo Montoya dice a quien quiera escucharlo que está "feliz en la Serie Nascar", donde a sus organizadores y aficionados "les gusta todo" lo que él hace y que le criticaban en la Fórmula 1, a la que calificó de "aburrida y decepcionante".

Montoya, que el próximo 25 de septiembre cumplirá 33 años, piensa que la Nascar es un circuito que se acomoda perfectamente a sus habilidades como piloto, controvertido por su desbordada osadía y búsqueda inquebrantable de nuevos límites. "Siempre he competido para superar a los demás carros y demostrar que soy el más rápido. Y por eso creo que la Nascar se amolda mucho mejor a mi forma de ser y de manejar", dijo Montoya, que comenzó hoy una breve visita a la ciudad de Cartagena, en el Caribe colombiano.

El piloto bogotano dijo que la Fórmula 1 lo había decepcionado y que las competencias del máximo circuito del automovilismo son muy aburridas. "No nos digamos mentiras: ver una carrera de Fórmula Uno es muy aburrido. Casi todo se define en la primera vuelta o en la entrada a los boxes. Eso no era lo que yo esperaba cuando llegué, pues aunque siempre fue allí donde quise competir, me decepcionó ver que no depende mucho de lo que pueda hacer el piloto", acotó.



Super Aguri salva su crisis

Super Aguri Honda anunció ayer que ya se ha asegurado el apoyo financiero que necesitaba para poder estar el próximo fin de semana en el GP de Australia. La escudería japonesa ha llegado a un acuerdo con el Grupo Magma. “Tras negociar con varios patrocinadores, inversores y partes interesadas, hemos llegado a un acuerdo con el grupo británico Magma para la firma de un contrato,” confirmó el jefe del equipo, Aguri Suzuki. “Hemos negociado muchas opciones y hemos entendido que éste era el mejor acuerdo para nuestro equipo.” De esta forma Aguri Suzuki confirmaba las primeras informaciones de que el Grupo Magma, liderado por el que fuera ejecutivo de Ford y Maserati, Martin Leach, salvaría a la escudería japonesa.

Suzuki no quiso dar detalles del acuerdo, ya que siguen en plenas negociaciones, pero confirmó que Magma “no será un patrocinador”. Según ha confirmado también Suzuki, la compañía Honda, que sigue siendo el proveedor de motores del equipo, además de ofrecer otro tipo de ayudas, ha dado el beneplácito a este acuerdo con Magma. La crisis financiera por la que hasta ahora atravesaba Super Aguri hacía presagiar que incluso podría perderse el inicio del Mundial en Australia. No en vano la escudería fue la única ausente en los últimos tests colectivos de F1 previos al Mundial, celebrados la pasada semana en Montmeló.

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Reverse F1 grids - Williams boss
By Andrew Benson

Williams co-owner Patrick Head
Head believes radical ideas need to be explored on overtaking
A radical idea to improve the spectacle of Formula One and make overtaking easier has been proposed by Williams team co-owner Patrick Head.

The veteran says races can be boring and wants the fastest cars to start at the back and the slowest at the front.

"I would like to see the grids in reverse order of championship position," Head told BBC Sport.

"It's the same for everybody, and over a whole season the right guy would still win the championship."

Interview: Williams team co-owner Patrick Head

Head, who has been involved in F1 for more than 30 years and is one of the most respected engineers in the sport, admitted that his idea would "very much upset the purists".

But he said current proposals to facilitate overtaking and improve the spectacle were unlikely to work - and that governing body the FIA was "going to need to be a bit more adventurous".


If you line the cars up with the fastest at the front and the slowest at the back, why should there be any overtaking?

Patrick Head
Co-owner Williams team
Previous attempts to improve overtaking have failed.

The most adventurous of these was forbidding refuelling between qualifying and race, opening up the possibility of position changes in the race because of differences in race strategy.

But, in practice, the strategies tend not to vary significantly among the leading teams, and any changing of position that takes place as a result happens in the pits not on the track.

For 2009, the FIA has introduced another series of changes - including a "boost" button to provide a brief burst of extra power, and changes to the aerodynamics to make it easier for one car to follow another closely.

But Head, speaking ahead of the start of the new season in Australia on Sunday, said: "I still have to ask the question that if you allow the guys to do all this practice and testing and then you line them up with the fastest at the front and the slowest at the back, why should there be any overtaking?

"Maybe overtaking will be less difficult, but if a guy is back there because by virtue of his own or his car speed he is 0.3 seconds slower than the car in front, why should he overtake [it]?"


606: DEBATE
What do you think of Head's idea?
Head admitted that there would likely be several objections to his idea.

"[There would be the question of] how you would deal with it at the first race," he said.

"And the fastest drivers might say: 'Well, overtaking is a risk and it puts us more at risk than the guys who don't have to do that.'

"I'm sure people would complain about it.

"But I do accept that Formula One is rather a purist's activity, and I do come across a lot of people who say they like watching motorbikes [more] and I have to say I'm a little bit in that camp because there isn't a lot of overtaking in Formula One.

Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen leads McLaren's Lewis Hamilton
Overtaking is notoriously difficult in Formula One
"What's really boring is if there's a car that's genuinely faster sitting on the tail of the car in front and his race is destroyed.

"We've had some races at Monaco where people have been held up for 30 or 40 laps when they've been a second or two faster than the car in front, and I think that's a pity."

That view is largely at odds with that of FIA president Max Mosley, who has in the past likened the strategic complexity of Grands Prix to chess matches.

Mosley has said that overtaking is a little bit too difficult - but he argues that if it was made too easy that would also be a bad thing because the drama of passing moves would be removed by them becoming ordinary.

As evidence that his proposal would work, Head pointed to the 2005 Japanese Grand Prix, which has been hailed as arguably the greatest single race in F1 history.

The fastest cars qualified well down the field because of a rain shower in qualifying.

That led to a dramatic race that included Fernando Alonso passing Michael Schumacher around the outside in a 180mph corner, and which climaxed when Kimi Raikkonen won thanks to an overtaking move on the last lap.

Head said his proposal had not come out of the blue - and was not motivated by the Williams team's fall from the position of dominance they enjoyed in the 1980s and 1990s.

"I've suggested [it] to the FIA in the past when they've been talking about biasing overtaking - and I've made those suggestions at times when Williams have been winning races," he said.

[Tess (Star-Apell...]

lo que no entiendo es que con el equipo ya constituido al completo, vayan a contratar a Dani Clos, ojala, pero me suena raro.

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Dennis set to arrive in Australia
“There are things I have to sort out in my life”
11/03/08 09:51



Days before the new season kicks off, McLaren boss Ron Dennis appears no closer to stepping down.

The general consensus in motor racing circles that the 60-year-old veteran's days as the Mercedes-powered Team's Principal are numbered.

But Dennis insists that the decision to stop and hand over to his deputy Martin Whitmarsh will be his alone.

"I'm not sure when that will be," the Briton told the Independent newspaper this week.

Dennis is due to arrive in Australia for the 2008 season opener on Thursday or Friday, but it is clear that he will not be making too many more trips to Grand Prix circuits as team boss.


"There are things I have to sort out in my life and I am in the process of doing that. I am 60 years old, and there are many other things I want to do outside Formula One," he added.

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