Ayrton Senna Opciones

[Toyotero]

SENNA, eres el mas grande!

[Raquel]

El coche de Ayrton Senna, el McLaren MP4-8 que le condujo a una de sus victorias más memorables (GP de Europa en 1993) volverá a las pistas durante este fin de semana: GOOWOOD FESTIVAL OF SPEED. Al volante estará Chris Goodwin, según he leído en McLaren.com. Sin embargo, ayer se publicada como "rumor" o especulación en Autosport.com que el MP4-4 podría ser conducido por el sobrino de Senna, Bruno Senna en dicho Festival y, de nuevo sonaría el nombre "Senna" a los mandos de ese magnífico coche. . En McLaren no he visto nada respecto a este dato: ni se confirma ni se hace mención a ello.

¡Qué daría yo por poder estar ahí! ¡Uf!, poder ver ese pico de pato precioso...

Soy consciente de que quizás sería más indicado poner este mensaje en el topic de "Curiosidades", pero la verdad es que me hacía ilusión dejarlo aquí, "el coche con su mejor piloto"

[tenista]

Yo recuerdo los grandes enfrentamientos entre Senna y Prost, gran rivalidad la suya.

Eso eran carreras disputadas, carreras en tensión que te hacían estrugarte contra el sillón como si tu fueras el que conducías.

Senna no era solo un gran piloto, además era una gran persona. Dirigía una empresa, en Brasil, dedicada a ayudar a las personas desfavorecidas. Todo el mundo le quería, sin él la formula 1 hubiera sido distinta.

[Raquel]

Bueno, pues aquí lo tenemos :

http://www.f1total.com/bilder/show.php?c=goodwood&b=019

GRACIAS, Yossi, que me pasaste la foto el viernes para que lo pudiera ver

[Raquel]

"La vida es como una leyenda: no importa que sea larga, sino que esté bien
narrada." (Séneca)

Sí nos importa, pero gracias, Ayrton. La tuya es magnífica.

PD: Una preciosa canción de Electric light Orchestra para ti: "Strange Magic"

[Albert-230SL]

hablando de canciones...

En Spa-Francorchamps de 1993, tuve la inmensa suerte de poder compartir la entrevista (yo hacía las fotos) que le hizo mi madre a Ayrton en exclusiva. Fueron unos 40 minutos a solas en el motorhome de Marlboro, Ayrton, mi madre y yo, que nunca olvidaré.

Yo ya era un 100% fan de Senna antes de conocerle, por lo que el riesgo de decepción o desengaño cuando tienes a alguien en un pedestal es muy grande... pero pasé a ser todavía más fan si cabe (y creía que no era posible) tras conocerle.

En el transcurso de la entrevista (el sábado por la tarde), pese a una dura jornada de entrenamientos, y pese a tener que abandonar la fiesta de cumpleaños de su amigo Berger, estuvo atento, encantador, concentrado, e incluso se esforzó para hacerla en español.

Hacia el final de la entrevista, en plan test, una de las preguntas era "una canción"... y la respuesta fue: hay brasileñas, pero me gusta Queen... la canción The Show Must Go On (el espectáculo debe continuar).

Cuando regresábamos a Barcelona desde Bélgica, en coche, escuchando el cassette de la entrevista, nos dimos cuenta de lo simbólico que era haber elegido esa canción... una frase que se dice cuando un artista muere en el circo... una canción, la última del último disco de Queen, que Freddie Mercury escribió totalmente consciente de que le quedaba poco de vida, y que era como una despedida...

Cuando pocos meses después pasó lo que pasó en Imola, todavía nos dejó más impactados el que esa fuera su canción favorita... todavía ahora, 12 años después, no puedo evitar emocionarme cuando la escucho...

Ayrton Senna era y es el más grande.
Afortunadamente lo que hizo fuera de las pistas para ayudar a su país y a los más necesitados, continúa (con la Fundación Senna) con paso firme su labor... y en el aspecto deportivo, sigue apareciendo como el nº1 en las encuestas que periódicamente se realizan entre expertos de F1... por muchos récords que consiga el tal Schumi.

Por cierto, me consta que Pedro es uno más de los fans de Ayrton Senna :-)

Saludos, Força Pedro, y Senna Forever!
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Edited by - Albert-230SL on 25/07/2006 16:50:56 [/b]

[Rafa_Granada]

Bonito relato, gracias por compartirlo.

[Raquel]

quote:

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pero me gusta Queen... la canción The Show Must Go On (el espectáculo debe continuar).

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¡Muchas gracias, ALBERT-230SL!

[Albert-230SL]

De nada... es un placer poder compartir éstas, nuestras pasiones, entre quien nos comprende :-)


Aquí está el test completo que nos contestó Ayrton en Spa '93:

Un color: Azul

Un libro: Alquimista

Una canción: Me gustan muchas canciones. Existen brasileñas, pero en inglés, la música de Queen... “The Show must go on”

Un cantante: Milton Nascimento

Un actor: Paul Newman

Una actriz: No tengo una actriz favorita

Un deportista: Fangio

Una deportista: No recuerdo el nombre, la americana que ganó los 100 metros en la olimpiada de Barcelona, era muy veloz

Una bebida: Guaraná

Una comida: la brasileña

Una fruta: Mango

El defecto que más rechaza: Prepotencia

Una virtud que admire: Humildad

Un coche de calle: Como voy a tener la concesión en Brasil... Audi (sonríe)

Un circuito: Spa-Francorchamps

Una ciudad: Tau, en Brasil

Un país: Brasil


Saludos, Força Pedro, y Senna Forever!

[Ayrton]

Gracias a todos por recuperar este tópic, y gracias a ti 230SL por compartir.




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"...CUANDO TODO PASE, SER�S OTRO, PERTENECER�S A UNA CLASE DIFERENTE E INCOMPRENSIBLE DE HOMBRES, LA DE LOS QUE HAN CONDUCIDO UN FORMULA UNO..."

[Raquel]

¿Qué tal si, además, subimos este topic hoy? (Sin pretender discusiones, claro está )

Sólo un homenaje más...
Los "mitos" son duros de roer, inevitablemente.

[_Erredege_]

Claro que si Raquel, se lo merece, seguramente ahora mismo él esté repasando mentalmente el circuito para la clasificación de mañana, no me cabe duda.

Se le echa de menos.

[Albert-230SL]

Buena idea subir el post, así nos sumamos al homenaje que le han hecho en Mónaco por los 20 años desde su primera victoria allí (Lotus 1987), donde conserva el récord de victorias, y donde al menos debería tener una más, la de 1984 (¿Verdad Sr. Ickx?)...

Cada vez que veo el casco amarillo de Hamilton con esa banda verde y azul, y más en Mónaco, y más en la sesión de libres con lluvia de hoy... me viene la imagen del casco de Ayrton, no lo puedo evitar.

Como decía Tina Turner: Simply the best...

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<h1 id="article-title">Ayrton Senna: Fourteen Years Later</h1> by Jordan Bagbey (Contributor)




If I ever happen to have an accident that eventually costs me my life, I hope it is in one go. I would not like to be in a wheelchair. I would not like to be in a hospital suffering from whatever injury it was. If Im going to live, I want to live fully, very intensely, because I am an intense person. It would ruin my life if I had to live partially.

Four months after Ayrton Senna made this bold statement, he would cease to exist physically in our world. Fourteen years ago on May 1, 1994 at the San Marino Grand Prix at Italys Imola circuit, three time Formula One world champion Ayrton Senna slammed into a concrete barrier. It just looked like a nasty shunt, and that was all. The world watched live as medical personnel tended to Senna right on the spot. Millions of people watched in horror and agony as they pulled the Brazilians body out of the blood stained cockpit. The race continued after Senna was air lifted to Maggiore Hospital. A young man driving for Benetton by the name of Michael Schumacher would later go on to win the race to cap an already harsh and difficult weekend. When Schumacher climbed up onto the podium, he had just received word that one of his most respected rivals was now dead.

It wasnt supposed to happen. Legends arent supposed to die, especially in easy bends such as Tamburello corner. For some reason the greatest drivers frequently hurt themselves. Senna drove like a man possessed. Winning was his only concern and there are examples of his determination throughout his career that shows it. Ayrton Senna was larger that life in Formula One. His brute, ruthless, and fearless driving style allowed him to win three championships and score an impressive 41 victories in his ten year career. He drove on the absolute edge of control where everything gets blurred in a chaotic vertigo, but yet the Brazilian had a mind like a steel trap. Nothing could get under his skin. He took everything as a challenge and set out to conquer them. Senna believed when he pushed himself to the very edge, it made him a better driver.

Senna grew up in Sao Paulo, Brazil in a wealthy family. Early in his life he developed an interest in racing. Like all great drivers, Senna started out in racing karts around the year 1973. By 1981 he was in Europe was open wheels in Formula Ford. In 1983 Senna won the British F3 Championship. By this time Senna was testing for four different teams and in 1984 he was signed to Toleman.

The Brazilian arrived with a bang, scoring his first point in only his second race. During his first Monaco Grand Prix, where Senna would dominate and win six times later in his career, he qualified 13th and then cut his way through the pack in the rainy weather. Senna would bypass legend Niki Lauda for second and pressured Alain Prost for first, a precursor of many battles to come between the two.

Senna joined Lotus in 1985 where he scored two wins, which were on wet tracks, and seven first place qualifying positions. He finished fourth overall in points. In 1987 Honda became Team Lotus engine supplier and Senna would soon develop a relationship with Honda. It led him to sign with McLaren in 1988 alongside Alain Prost.


McLaren would prove to be dominant in the MP4/4 winning 15 out of 16 races with Senna winning eight of them. The year 1988 would also be the year of Sennas first championship. It also proved as the starting point of the famous Prost-Senna rivalry which at times would get extremely volatile. One such event occurred in Portugal when Senna almost ran Prost into the pitwall barrier at the start. The next year in 1989 the rivalry at McLaren came to another head when both drivers were in contention for the title. At Suzuka Prost collided with Senna entering a chicane. Senna would go on to win the race but the FIA disqualified him for cutting the chicane. The Brazilian denounced them for their decision.

In 1990 history repeated itself at Suzuka again. Again both drivers were in the running for the championship. Senna collided into one of the rear wheels on Prosts Ferrari. The collision would allow Senna to collect his second championship. His rationale for his actions was that the FIA promised to change the pole position on the grid to the clean side of the track instead of on the dirty side. When the FIA did not comply Senna took matters into his own hands to secure his championship.

1991 delivered Sennas third championship which was largely uncontested; however, in 1992 and 1993 Senna experienced trouble as McLaren was no longer dominant. Senna got better prospects in 1994 when he joined Williams. Senna was going to be beside Prost again but the Frenchman retired instead of having to be Sennas teammate. Williams dominated in 1992 and 1993, so Senna was immediately favored to win the championship. His season got off to a rocky start. In his home race at Brazil, Senna spun off the track while furiously trying to catch up to Michael Schumacher. He also crashed in Japan.

The next race was at Imola and Senna told everyone that is where his season would begin. The Brazilian put his car on pole, but he became rather uneasy during the weekend. In practice Sennas protégé, Rubens Barrichello, launched his car into a tire wall. Also an Austrian named Roland Ratzenberger tragically crashed and died during qualifying. The events greatly unsettled Senna to the point where he considered retiring. After the accident Senna decided to bring upon himself the task of restarting the Grand Prix Drivers Association, which looks after the safety of the drivers.

Eyewitnesses claim that Senna was a changed man that weekend after the accidents. He wasnt the same man. There was a sense of restlessness with him. He looked has that he wanted to race, but only to get the race over and done with. In interviews his mind was wandering off to other places. At the starting of the race people noticed that Senna put on his helmet and balaclava on differently than usual. While on the grid Senna took his helmet off, something that the Brazilian never did.

There was an accident at the start of the race that brought out the safety car. The safety car pulled off the track and racing resumed. Going into the Tamburello corner at 190 mph, something happened to Sennas car which has never been clarified. The car appeared to scrape the asphalt and it shot off the track. Sennas reaction time was so quick he was able to slow the car down from 190 to 130 mph in less than two seconds. The car lunged straight into the unprotected concrete barrier. The right front tire separated from the chassis and flew back right into Sennas head. The force of the tire forced him back and slammed his head into the back of the seat producing an instantaneous skull fracture. Part of the steel upright of the wheel that bolted it onto the car also penetrated Sennas helmet and pierced his skull right above his right eyebrow. Senna was clinically dead as soon as the car started spinning back onto the track.

The world watched with shock as the car came to a rest and saw Sennas lifeless body. Hope spread through everyones hearts as they saw his head move. It took the medical crew forever to reach the car. Dr. Sid Watkins was the head of the medical team. He performed a tracheotomy and pulled Senna out of the car. Watkins reported, He looked serene. I raised his eyelids and it was clear from his pupils that he had a massive brain injury. We lifted him from the cockpit and laid him on the ground. As we did, he sighed and, although I am totally agnostic, I felt his soul depart at that moment.

Senna was taken to the hospital in Bologna and at 6.40 p.m. he was pronounced dead. The next day the motor world was in shock. Three days of national mourning was proclaimed in Brazil. At the funeral, more than one million people lined the streets of Sao Paulo to get a glimpse of the casket. Most, if not all, of the F1 community was there including Alain Prost, who was one of the pall bearers.

Ayrton Sennas death was a terrible tragedy that could have easily been avoided. Whats even worse is that it took a great drivers death to be a catalyst in safety regulations by the FIA and FOM. The HANS device soon became popular and then became mandated largely in part by Sennas cause of death. Another improvement that is regulated is the Kevlar cords that securely fasten the wheel assembly to the monocoque chassis. Whats also improved is the speed it takes for a safety regulation to be implemented. A great example would be from last year in Melbourne when David Coulthards Red Bull soared over Alex Wurzs nose and almost took his hand off. This year the cars must have a protective head cover that surrounds the drivers head. Since Sennas death in 1994 there have been no fatalities in Formula One, something other motorsports cannot say.

May 1, 1994 was the darkest day in Formula One history, even with the exception of the 2005 U.S. Grand Prix. On that day the world lost an audacious knight who was most ruthless to his enemies and most chivalrous to his friends and those who were in need. Sennas aggressiveness often veiled his personality off the track. When not racing, Senna was an ambassador to not only his sport, but also to his country. He took time to help the needy in Brazil even when he came from a privileged upbringing. The Ayrton Senna Foundation, which Senna founded, continues to operate to help the needy of Brazil. One thing that is truely saddening is after the accident, marshals found a folded Austrian flag in Senna's car. Senna was going to have the flag flown during the podium ceremonies in memory of Roland Ratzenberger.

The world rarely produces men like Ayrton Senna. Many cry because we lost a great driver who we all loved to watch race, but we should all fall to our knees and weep because we lost an exceptional human being. Sennas legacy lives on through his charity foundation. Many still call him the best driver that ever lived. Maybe they are right, for if it hadnt been for Sennas death Michael Schumacher may have not risen like he did. We are still reminded of Senna. The Grand Prix Drivers Association was restarted in his honor and continues to look out for the drivers safety. Every time we witness a bad wreck we think back to Senna. When Kovalainen rammed the wall in Spain I immediately thought of Sennas accident. Even Kubicas awesome and jaw dropping wreck in Montreal reminds us of Senna. We can never allow ourselves to forget the name Ayrton Senna. He should stand as a colossus in modern Formula One history as a bar for all new drivers to meet. We must not allow his death to go in vain. We must not allow ourselves to forget a person that pushed his absolute being for himself and the rest of the world.

Many may be angered because of the circumstances under which Senna was killed. The drivers were used like toys to make money in that time period and their concerns were never given much thought. Many may feel that Senna died for nothing. Bruce McLaren died in an accident and hopefully what McLaren wrote about the death of a teammate can help us see past the anger and only see the positives. McLaren wrote:

Who is to say that he had not seen more, done more and learned more in his few years than many people do in a lifetime? To do something well is so worthwhile that to die trying to do it better cannot be foolhardy. It would be a waste of life to do nothing with ones ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone."

Ayrton Senna lived a full life and lived more in 34 years than what many people live in 84 years. In that, we should be comforted.

Let us never forget Ayrton Senna, and remember him on this 14th anniversary of his death.

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[Jordi G.S.]

Cada vez que se acerca el 1 de mayo no puedo olvidar lo que sentí el dia que murió.
Tampoco puedo entender cómo cada nuevo detalle de la vida de Senna se adentra dentro de mi consciencia y hace que su presencia en mi sea más intensa.

Gracias Ayrton

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[Albert-230SL]

Buen artículo Yossi, gracias por colgarlo... tengo los ojos llorosos...

También pensé tras el accidente de Kovalainen y las escasas consecuencias físicas que tuvo, que si ese fatídico muro de Imola hubiera estado protegido por filas de neumáticos como lo estaba el del Circuit de Catalunya, bien distinto hubiera sido todo...

Ambos accidentes se produjeron por un problema en el coche, y cuando eso sucede, el punto de impacto puede ser un lugar poco normal, poco esperable. Probablemente al trágico accidente de Senna habrá salvado varias vidas desde 1994, pues -como dicen en ese artículo- sirvió de revulsivo para estudiar a fondo todas las medidas de seguridad, y para dar fuerza a la GPDA... que precisamente hoy preside Pedro, para quien Senna es su más admirado piloto.

También me emocionó ver en el Circuit de Catalunya a su sobrino Bruno en el podio de la GP2, con aficionados luciendo banderas brasileñas en la tribuna principal, con su casco muy parecido al de su desaparecido tio con quien practicaba karting en Brasil, con un gran logo de SENNA (el de Ayrton) en la parte superior de su coche, y me alegro mucho de que esté liderando el Campeonato de GP2 (empatado con Parente).

Hoy me pondré la canción "The Show Must Go On", de Queen... premonitoriamente su canción favorita (según nos contó en Spa Francorchamps 1993), como premonitorias eran esas declaraciones donde decía que si algún día tenía un accidente mortal, pedía que fuera rápido, en un momento... y así fue, y como no podía ser de otra manera, liderando la carrera y partiendo desde la Pole Position.
"El Espectáculo Debe Continuar", pero nunca será lo mismo sin Senna, sin su magia, sin ese casco amarillo... que quizá veamos algún día de nuevo en la parrilla de salida de la F1 en su querido sobrino. Realmente tiene el listón muy alto, pero sería bonito verle allí.

Saludos,
Albert

[Raquel]

Gracias, Yossi.

Cuanto más intento, menos le comprendo.
Y eso es una de las cosas que para mí lo hacen ADMIRABLE.

Pero cada vez estoy más convencida de que Senna tenía una virtud muy peculiar: sentía de un modo especial que escapa a muchas lógicas y conclusiones que uno pudiera interpretar.

Eso es lo que le hace único. Y su magia estaba en ser particular y diferente por ello mismo.

No quiero jamás comprenderle. Sólo disfrutarle.

[tenista]

Gracias Yossi

[ScuVi]

Que grande Senna!! No sabía lo de la bandera austríaca que llevaba en el coche para rendir homenaje a Ratzenberger. Recuerdo perfectamente cuando mi hermano me dijo lo del accidente, él habia tenido uno el dia antes y no pudo venirse a un viaje, fue un día muy difícil para la F1, como dice en el artículo incluso mas negro que el GP USA de 2005 con 6 coches en la parrilla de salida.

Gracias Yossi, tu también eres grande, al menos para nosotros