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Charlie Whiting says the 2014 engines "are not going to be silent" and that people will become used to them "pretty quickly".

Bernie Ecclestone has previously voiced his concern at the expected sound from the new V6-turbos, saying that the lack of noise compared to the current engines will diminish the sport's appeal. However, Whiting - who is the FIA's head of the Formula One technical department - says he's looking forward to the new units coming in to the sport and believes they will not be as bad as Ecclestone claims.

"It's a big challenge, a very big challenge for the engine manufacturers," Whiting told PeterWindsor.com. "I'm looking forward to seeing the engines run - to see how complicated they are and how clever they are. They're going to be extremely high-tech power units, that's for sure.

"As for the sound, I think people will get used to it pretty quickly. Honestly, when I think back to the old BMW four cylinder engine we ran in the Brabham days, that revved to 11,000rpm and it sounded fine. The new engines are not going to be silent. The sound is going to be different but people will get used to it very quickly, I think."

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El motor del que habla Whiting, montado en el Benetton B186.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1UZ3Vlox_M

Sí, el de los 1400 CV en clasificación.
Y sí, debe sonar alto por las reacciones de la gente al acelerarlo a niveles de rpm "normales" en esos motores.

Y no, aunque para nada suena mal, no es lo mismo que un V12, la verdad...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lKIoqoJy0M

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Nunca había oído el el turbo de BMW al ralentí y suena a kart de 2T cuando sueltas pedal, curioso.

Lo de los V12 es música celestial para mis oídos, os contaré un pequeño secreto, de chiquito cuando aun no me había cambiado la voz jugaba a imitar el agudo sonido de los boxer de Ferrari, mi medico andaba mosca con el hecho de que estuviese afónico tan a menudo y mi madre le decía que yo era muy sensible de la garganta laugh.gif


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Sauber have announced that they will launch their 2013 car - the Ferrari-powered C32 - on February 2, three days before the start of pre-season testing.

The Swiss teams new challenger, which will be raced by Nico Hulkenberg, formerly of Force India, and Mexican rookie Esteban Gutierrez, will be unveiled to the media at their Hinwil factory.

Testing begins at the Spanish circuit of Jerez on Tuesday, February 5.

Sauber finished sixth in the 2012 constructors championship after four podium results.

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CITA(cies @ Jan 4 2013, 05:19 PM) *
...de chiquito cuando aun no me había cambiado la voz jugaba a imitar el agudo sonido de los boxer de Ferrari, mi medico andaba mosca con el hecho de que estuviese afónico tan a menudo y mi madre le decía que yo era muy sensible de la garganta laugh.gif


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ah es cierto!!! que tu .... jejeje
pues ná al próximo congreso médico que vayas propondría introducir como nuevo elemento para la diagnosis de la afonía la siguiente pregunta al paciente: "¿es usted un flipado del motortsport?" wink.gif


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CITA(cies @ Jan 6 2013, 09:52 AM) *
ah es cierto!!! que tu .... jejeje
pues ná al próximo congreso médico que vayas propondría introducir como nuevo elemento para la diagnosis de la afonía la siguiente pregunta al paciente: "¿es usted un flipado del motortsport?" wink.gif


Ostras, yo daria lo que fuera por verlo.... laugh.gif


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Ya empiezan a dejarse verse...
La primera característica que se me viene a la cabeza es: "diminutos".

Kers: "From 80hp for 6.7secs per lap to 161hp for 33.3 secs per lap".

"One important aspect of change will be to see the power unit as a whole entity, so that each driver will have 5 power units for the season (currently he has 8 engines). So if he has a failure of ERS, turbo, an exhaust, battery or control electronics failure you will have to use a sixth power unit and incur a 10 place penalty. Today its only the engine itself which attracts a penalty."

Un motor que aguante cinco GGPP, con sus entrenamientos oficiales y libres, con un consumo milimétricamente estudiado, me hace pensar en que se puedan llegar a usar en carreras de resistencia como Le Mans.
Es decir, el camino inverso de los turbos originales en los 70, que pasaron de Le Mans a la F1 (el caso de Renault).

De saque, se van a ir a los 900 CV (motor + Kers).

A ver si Nissan le mete el motor Renault al DeltaWing...


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En octubre se publicó un análisis del motor de Renault... http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/re...2014-f1-engine/

El análisis completo se puede leer en ... http://gb.zinio.com/pages/RacecarEngineeri...416241241/pg-46


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presentaciones confirmadas y fechas de test pretemporada 2013

Under wraps - the 2013 launch schedule

The 2013 FIA Formula One World Championship gets underway with the 2013 Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne's Albert Park on March 15-17. But before the racing can begin, each of the teams will be unveiling their new car. Here are some important dates for you diary in the weeks leading up to the start of the new season...

2013 car launches

Team Date Venue
McLaren January 31 TBC
Force India February 1 Silverstone, UK
Sauber February 2 Hinwil, Switzerland
Red Bull February 3 Milton Keynes, UK


Pre-season testing

Venue Provisional dates
Jerez, Spain February 5-8
Barcelona, Spain February 19-22
Barcelona, Spain February 28-March 3

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Palmares Piloto
Temporada 2007 Posición 38: 38 Puntos
Temporada 2008 Posición 6: 61 Puntos
Temporada 2009 Posición 3: 41 Puntos
Temporada 2010 Posición 11: 61 Puntos
Temporada 2011 Posición 5: 80 Puntos
Temporada 2012 Posición 11: 52 Puntos
Temporada 2013 Posición 1: 81 Puntos
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Palmares Escuderias: Bandoleros F1 Team
Temporada 2012 Posición 3: 101 Puntos
Temporada 2013 Posición 1: 162 Puntos
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Por lo que se ve, ha muerto Javier del Arco.

Raymond Blancafort ‏@rblancafort

Ha fallecido Javier del Arco, el mejor periodista español que tuvimos en F1. Descanse en paz.



Una grandísima pérdida para el periodismo de motor. Recuerdo con cariño los artículos para F1 Racing, eran tremendamente geniales.


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Entrevista a Alejandro Agag: " El hombre con un plan para cambiar el deporte del motor"


Yesterday the new FIA Formula E series announced its first team entry, following up on recent announcements on race venues in Rio and Rome.

Lord Draysons team is the first of 10 which will contest the new series when it starts in 2014. Further venue and team announcements are due to follow in the coming months, including, it is understood, a race in London.

Recently I met up with the promoter of Formula E, Alejandro Agag for an interview which makes for interesting reading for anyone interested in new ideas. Agag has been around F1 for several years, and his BARWA ADDAX team won the GP2 teams title in 2008 and 2011.


Why do you think Formula E is the right formula?
We are F1 and GP2 fans, but we think that there is a space for electric racing. When the FIA came up with the proposal we thought that it was a fantastic project. Its what sponsors want, its what the industry needs. The electric car industry is still catching on, people still arent buying electric cars and there is the need to give the electric revolution a shot in the arm to make it more popular and to make people believe in it.

There have been lots of new racing series that have been set up and which failed (e.g. A1 GP). What have you learned from those failures?
We are very conscious about this and have tried to learn a lot, especially from the series that did not do well. One of the main reasons why they didnt succeed is that they were trying to compete with F1. Thats really difficult. We think that we are very different because we race in cities and we are fully electric. That unique angle can be the base of our future success. We learned from A1GP, that had some good things and they were able to put together a global championship quickly, but they ran out of money because the business model behind it wasnt working. We have a good business model, a good vision of cost control and we can impose that from the beginning.

We have the agreement with the FIA, so its an FIA championship, which is important. Particularly for us as this is new technology. That support is really important.

Your timing is good in terms of distributing the coverage of it, as you arent dependent on TV deals, you can stream the races on the web, right?

Yes absolutely. We have a vision for the reach of our championship which is much more related to the digital and to streaming. Now technology allows for people all around the world to watch our races via internet. So we can be very flexible about where we race. Its very important to us to have global reach, we have to be all over the world. So we are geographically distributing the cities where we race according to this.

And we are succeeding; we have 15 cities around the world that want us to race there. We wont be able to race in all of them in 2014, we will race in 10. Since we announced Rome another four cities have offered themselves. Sometimes its the Mayor, who contacts us sometimes its others, but its always the Mayor who signs the formal letter for the race. Mayors see it as a political asset for them. In cities all over the world a priority is to reduce pollution and the use of electric vehicles is a key element of that. So mayors see this series as a element of their policy that combines with other policies to get cleaner mobility.

What are the benefits to you of having races in cities, rather than on race tracks?

We think its about the message. And the message is for the people to see electric cars as a viable solution in their lives. So the people need to see the electric car where it is useful and that is in the cities. (FIA president Jean Todt) and I had the same vision on this. We always saw it as a series that was not for circuits.

What will the cars sound like?
It will sound really cool, especially when its going fast. The motor (being produced by McLaren) makes a sound. Its a futuristic fighter jet kind of sound. And I cannot want to hear the new engine when it comes in June.

We have other noises that you dont hear in other series, like the tyre noise. There will be a lot of drifting in this championship, because city tracks will be very slippery. We will go for duration and sustainability, rather than performance and pit stops on the tyres. A set may last for more than one race? You also hear the aero noise, which you never hear in formula racing.

Who is the target market from a fans point of view?
A new market, perhaps not F1 fans, the diehards. This is a championship for younger people, who are interested in technology, people interested in environment. We want people who today are 14-16 years old to be inspired so that the first car they buy is an electric.

The format of the races is a talking point. Drivers are going to switch cars during the race.

If you look at the nature of the event, you cannot ask 25,000 people to come to a city venue for a 20 minute race.Its not reasonable. You need to out on a show that is long enough for people to sit down and watch it, sit down in their houses and watch it. At least to get close to one hour.

So a driver will have Car A and Car B. After around 30 minutes he will drop Car A, run a certain distance to his second car, race that, then come back to his first car, which has been on quick recharge and will be up to about 50% of the charge. So with 25 plus 25 plus 10 you are there at one hour.

Of course we are showing an obvious limitation of electric cars, which is range. But over the years we will show the evolution of electric cars and batteries. And the video production people love it because its a new part of the show. We are going to try a lot of new things in this championship.

What effect will this have on existing motorsport series?
We think we are complimentary with other series. We want to make our contribution in terms of technology. We will become one more element of motor sport and competition. In our case we will also attract people who arent necessarily motorsport fans, but who like other things about our series. To see cars racing against backdrop of the Colliseum in Rome its going to be pretty unique. Like the London Olympics showed, the best backdrops are the cities and for the sponsors it offers all kinds of new possibilities.

Who is going to drive the cars?
We aim to be a top driver series, so theyll come from GP2, IndyCar, Formula 1. Guys that are young and who have experience, but who are racers in the middle of their careers. We have plenty of experience of drivers from GP2 (BARWA ran Petrov, Pic, van der Garde, Di Grassi etc).

We see ourselves as a different proposition. For a driver coming out of F1 (like a Kovalainen or a Kobayashi or an Alguersuari), you cannot go back to GP2 but you could come to Formula E. Same for IndyCar. We think that drivers will see it as a good thing in their career, once they have achieved a certain moment.


http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/01/inte...nge-motorsport/
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¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡PAREN MAQUINAS!!!!!!!!
Llega, la noticia de 2013...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Nk2GdgGWw

http://www.novofusion.com.br/fusiongp/

Sí, es publicidad de Ford Brasil, pero los más entrados en años del lugar van a flipar (y los jóvenes también, que ahora con "el interné" se sabe todo). laugh.gif

"Amigos íntimos" que se dedicaron perlas como:

Piquet:
"Yo estoy acostumbrado a ganar campeonatos, y Mansell, a perderlos."
"Mansell tiene las dos mujeres más feas del mundo." (en referencia a la mujer de Mansell y la estatua de ella que se hizo).
"¿Mi estrategia? Echar a Nigel de la pista en la primera curva."

Mansell:
"Es un piloto de cazabombarderos más que de F1."




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http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formula1/...-force-india-f1

Problemillas ??? blink.gif
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CITA(MORIS @ Jan 18 2013, 11:26 AM) *


Esto ya lo adelantamos algunos wink.gif

http://issuu.com/loganf1/docs/resumen_temp...p;pageNumber=79 (va directo a la página de Force India)

o en

http://www.quemandorueda.net/2012/12/la-f1...-hrts-y-su.html





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ya ya lo se, por eso lo he puesto cool.gif
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CITA(MORIS @ Jan 18 2013, 01:35 PM) *
ya ya lo se, por eso lo he puesto cool.gif


jejeje ahí, ahí tongue.gif


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Ya veremos... no sé si esta no será la última temporada del equipo Force India, tal y como lo conocemos... En 2014 se multiplican los costes. A lo mejor, es el momento en que el señor Mallya abandone el barco y deje paso a una escudería de fábrica o a Brabham con otro ricachón detrás...
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http://static.novofusion.com.br/fusiongp/home.php


Piquet versus Mansell... Primer vídeo.

LO QUE YO DARIA PORQUE ESTOS DOS VOLVIERAN A CORRER...


Yo creo que todavía 25 años después, se llevarían a unos cuantos de los que hay ahora por delante... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Se los llevarían por delante a piñas y patadas como a Eliseo Salazar ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXbGDcMeo8
...porque por pilotaje a estas alturas yo creo que harían un MonoLaudaJaguar2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLLDWnJEUfQ


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