RECOGIDA DE FIRMAS ¡VOLANTE PARA PEDRO YA! Votos Opciones

[tenista]

Queridos compañeros, yo no estoy enfadado o picado con nadie, que parece que es asi.

Cuando he dicho que tenian razon en el tema de la carta "corta", ni mucho menos era por ironia, sino todo lo contrario porque creo que tienen razón.

Yo no soy el mas indicado para ciertas cosas y mucho menos para juzgar a nadie. Tess, ellos tienen razón mi carta es demasiado larga. Tenemos que hacer caso de quien sabe de estas cosas.

Espero que con este quede resuelto el mal entendido. Resulta que me he ido a dormir y al levantarme me encuentro este revuelo.

Repito yo no he querido ni que se montara este revuelo, ni ofender a nadie y mucho menos menospreciar a ningun compañero.

Tess, te agradezco todo lo que intentas hacer por mi de todo corazon, pero recuerda que hemos sido muchos y en mayor medida que yo, los que hemos ayudado.

Espero que quede zanjado el asunto.

Por cierto, Accitano, tambien estoy de acuerdo contigo.

Edited by - TENISTA on 10/12/2007 16:02:16

Edited by - TENISTA on 10/12/2007 16:04:04

[tenista]

Una cosa mas, como Tess se ha puesto en contacto con el webmaster, espero que sea este el que le diga como ha de hacerlo, para intentar que todo llegue a buen puerto o en este caso a buen box.

[ABCV]

Bueno Tenista, lo que haya que hacerlo hay que hacerlo ya, porque el culebrón del año ya está tocando a su fin, Alonso ha decidido su futuro y cuando Mclaren confirme a su segundo piloto, la parrilla quedará configurada, y eso puede ser esta semana misma.
Lo trabajado es para sentirse muy orgulloso de nosotros mismos, la carta, ya veremos si mandamos la tuya o la mía Tenista. Pero ya que nadie creo que acabe en Woking esta semana, creo que lo mejor será mandarlas por e-mail a Mclaren y que haya suerte para que no caigan en saco roto.
Lo ideal es que el Webmaster lea las cartas propuestas y vea cual es mejor para que llegue a la sede para posteriormente cruzar nosotros los dedos.

Dicen que Magic es Alonso, pero el verdadero magic es Catalán y se llama Pedro

[tenista]

ABCV, yo estoy de acuerdo con cualquier cosa que decidais hacer. Para mi, formar parte de este gran grupo es suficiente.

Creo que Tess, ya se ha puesto en contacto con el Webmaster.

Edited by - TENISTA on 10/12/2007 16:18:45

[Albert-230SL]

Coincido en que mejor no hacerla muy larga, y quizá podría hacerse un mix entre las dos cartas propuestas aquí, pues me gustaba más el tono general de la anterior (traducida por Txonez, y de ABCV), pues no tenía un tono tan imperativo como la segunda "Pedro debe ser el piloto" ("Pedro must")... que igual suena demasiado autoritario y exigente, y puede resultar contraproducente ¿no creéis? Una cosa es que les digas lo que te gustaría o lo que crees mejor, o que manifiestes tu apoyo, y otra que les ordenes lo que deben hacer...

La anterior propuesta era:

Dear Mclaren-Mercedes management board,
We are writing this letter in order to make you aware of a initiative run by a group of Pedro De La Rosa fans which we represent, that have reached 16.000 signatures in a formal petition to support Pedro as second Mclaren driver in the 2008 line up
Although there are many Alonso fans in Spain, Pedro is supported by many F1 fans worldwide since his early racing years in Japan. He has earned a solid reputation through the years.
Since Pedro arrived at Mclaren 5 years ago, he’s been displaying his skills as a tester driver and through the years he has lived all kind of situations, from his epic race in Bahrein to the podium in Hungary last year. Also, it is remarkable his sacrifice in Suzuka 2006 where he raced with a restricted engine following 2007 engine regulation.
All through these years, he has fulfilled all the tasks he has been required for and he has exceeded expectations many times. He is a key part of the team and especially he made a huge contribution to develop the car and make the MP4-22 the fastest machine of the championship.
Last season was a very difficult one for Mclaren Mercedes , not only because of the spy case, but also due to the rare environment inside the team and the relationship between Lewis and Fernando. That’s why we think the team needs stability and reliability. Both features could be fulfilled by Pedro. Also note that having Pedro as second driver will make Lewis a better driver. He knows the team philosophy and he knows the car better than anyone in the F1 world. And for sure that he is willing to win races for Mclaren Mercedes.
We think Pedro is the best option by far. We would like to see Mclaren- Mercedes on the top of the constructors’ and drivers’ title and we know that Pedro as the second driver role is much better contribution to the team than as a test driver.
Note that in just one week and only using Internet, we have reached more than 16,000 signatures supporting Pedro. We have a dream. We see Pedro racing with a MP4-23 next year and we see him on the top of the podium. This is our dream and we are very close to see it becoming true. It depends on you.
(poner el link de la pagina de firmas)
Kind Regards,
Foro PDLR

Pienso que si juntamos lo que está en negrita (ya está actualizado el número de firmas y lo del MP4-23), con los puntos adicionales de la otra carta (indicados en negrita también), queda algo muy correcto, nada impositivo ni amenazante... y ni tan largo como la primera, pero más calida que la segunda:

I'm writing to you with the intention to explain to you why the Spanish driver and test driver of Vodafone McLaren-Mercedes Mr Pedro de la Rosa must occupy the vacancy generated in your team because of the exit of the team of the also Spanish driver Mr Fernando Alonso.
After so many years, it doesn't serve to explain to you the kind of person and the kind of driver that you have in your team. For this reason, I will focus in exposing to you some aspects that can contribute to improve any type of situation throughout a whole season.
First, making Mr De la Rosa second driver of your team, you will be able to avoid any kind of mishap between your drivers and engineers because of the big team spirit that Mr De la Rosa has demonstrated throughout all these years. Mr De la Rosa is the only driver who can guarantee superb relationships with the team throughout all the season. The rest of drivers are a mystery.
Second, by the mediatic reach that Mr De la Rosa has demonstrated to have after the great collection of signatures that all over the five continents has been certified in his Web.
Finally and perhaps the most important,by the prestige and image that Mr De la Rosa offers by any place of the world that visits and to any kind of person who asks for it. Without another individual to comment to you, and indicating to you that you will not regret, receive a warm greeting.


El mix de las dos, quedaría más o menos así:

Dear Mclaren-Mercedes management board,

We are writing this letter in order to make you aware of a initiative run by a group of Pedro De La Rosa fans which we represent, that have reached 16.000 signatures in a formal petition to support Pedro as second Mclaren driver in the 2008 line up
Although there are many Alonso fans in Spain, Pedro is supported by many F1 fans worldwide since his early racing years in Japan. He has earned a solid reputation through the years.

Last season was a very difficult one for Mclaren Mercedes. That’s why we think the team needs stability and reliability. Both features could be fulfilled by Pedro. Making Mr De la Rosa second driver of your team, you will be able to avoid any kind of mishap between your drivers and engineers because of the big team spirit that Mr De la Rosa has demonstrated throughout all these years. Mr De la Rosa is the only driver who can guarantee superb relationships with the team throughout all the season. It's also very important the prestige and image that Mr De la Rosa offers by any place of the world that visits and to any kind of person who asks for it.The rest of drivers are a mystery

He knows the team philosophy and he knows the car better than anyone in the F1 world. And for sure that he is willing to win races for Mclaren Mercedes.
We think Pedro is the best option by far. We would like to see Mclaren- Mercedes on the top of the constructors’ and drivers’ title and we know that Pedro as the second driver role is much better contribution to the team than as a test driver.
Note that in just one week and only using Internet, we have reached more than 16,000 signatures supporting Pedro. We have a dream. We see Pedro racing with a MP4-23 next year and we see him on the top of the podium. This is our dream and we are very close to see it becoming true. It depends on you.
(poner el link de la pagina de firmas)
Kind Regards,
Foro PDLR

¿Cómo lo véis?

Saludos, y PDLR piloto McLaren-Mercedes 2008!!!

[ABCV]

Pues verlo no lo veo Albert porque el inglés y yo nunca hemos sido amigos XD.
Pero hablando en serio, me parece muy buena idea juntar lo mejor de ambas cartas.

Te lo has currao ¿eh?

Dicen que Magic es Alonso, pero el verdadero magic es Catalán y se llama Pedro

[txonez]

Buenas!! Hostia como ha avanzado la cosa desde el Viernes!!. he visto que hay un modelo de carta que parece ser el definitivo. Yo no voy a entrar en el contenido de la carta, solo aporto mis conocimeintos de inglés. La última versión necesita estos cambios gramaticales:

Dear Mclaren-Mercedes management board,

We are writing this letter in order to make you aware of a initiative run by a group of Pedro De La Rosa fans which we represent, that have reached 16.000 signatures in a formal petition to support Pedro as second Mclaren driver in the 2008 line up
Although there are many Alonso fans in Spain, Pedro is supported by many F1 fans worldwide since his early racing years in Japan. He has earned a solid reputation through the years.

Last season was a very difficult one for Mclaren Mercedes. That’s why we think the team needs stability and reliability. Both features could be fulfilled by Pedro. Making Mr De la Rosa second driver will provide the Team with the right resource in order to make easy the relationship between drivers and engineers because of the big team spirit that Mr De la Rosa has shown throughout all these years. He is the only driver who can guarantee superb relationships within the team throughout all the season and you have to take into account the strong and clear public image that Mr De la Rosa offers to Team partners. He's got the best package in the market right now acording to your interests.

He knows the team philosophy and he knows the car better than anyone in the F1 world. And for sure that he is willing to win races for Mclaren Mercedes.
We think Pedro is the best option by far. We would like to see Mclaren- Mercedes on the top of the constructors’ and drivers’ title and we know that Pedro as the second driver role is much better contribution to the team than as a test driver.
Note that in just one week and only using Internet, we have reached more than 16,000 signatures supporting Pedro. We have a dream. We see Pedro racing with a MP4-23 next year and we see him on the top of the podium. This is our dream and we are very close to see it becoming true. It depends on you.
(poner el link de la pagina de firmas)
Kind Regards,
Foro PDLR

[txonez]

He vuelto a leer la carta y el parrafo segundo quedaría mejor asi:

Last season was a very difficult one for Mclaren Mercedes. That’s why we think the team needs stability and reliability. Both features could be fulfilled by Pedro. Making Mr De la Rosa second driver will provide the Team with the right resource in order to make easy the relationship between drivers and engineers because of the big team spirit that Mr De la Rosa has shown throughout all these years. He is the only driver who can guarantee superb relationships within the team and you have to take into account the strong and clear public image that Mr De la Rosa offers to Team partners. He's got the best package in the market right now according to your interests.

[Guest_lemec_*]

Adjudicado! ... Que se mande ya a ver si va a quedar todo en discusiones

Por cierto que he leido una entrevista a Pedro en la que comenta que en Woking (sin especificar a que nivel)tienen conocimiento de lo de las firmas.

A por ellos !

[ExxonValdez]

Estamos a 144 firmas para llegar a las 16.000.

[Tess (Star-Apell...]

Estoy esperando la respuesta del webmaster, que no sabemos a donde enviarla y el nos podrá indicar lo más apropiado.
Tener un poquito de calma por favor.

Demuéstrale
tu apoyo a Pedro de la Rosa, CLICKA AQUI

 

[tenista]

15884

[ABCV]

Esperemos el OK del Webmaster para dar la estocada final.

WEBMASTER, MANIFIESTATEEE XDDD

Dicen que Magic es Alonso, pero el verdadero magic es Catalán y se llama Pedro

[calimbaire]

En mi humilde opinión considero q (tenga o no tenga finalmente Pedro un volante en Mc Laren y rezo porque sí) resulta mosqueante la demora por parte de Ron Dennis en la confirmación del segundo piloto. ¿A qué espera?. Sus dudas son estratégicas o es que realmente no lo tiene claro a estas alturas?. En cualquier caso la duda ofende y Renault se entendía que tenía que esperar y cuando tuvo que confirmarlo lo confirmó. Pero Ron Dennis, insisto... ¿a q espera...?

[`]

Habia que darselas al señor Botin para que se las diera en manos al Ron dennis en una de esas partidas al golf que se echan los dos.

[Raul Leiva]

Si yo fuera Pedro, estaría orgulloso de tener este foro, estos foreros, estos aficionados, en fin, estos amigos. Creo que esto, y que me corrijan, no se ha hecho en ningun lado con algun deportista, y aunque a Pedro no le elijan estará super orgulloso de nosotros, y yo, por lo menos, me siento asi, orgulloso de tener este piloto y de compartir sentimientos, vivencias y opiniones en comun a un piloto: Pedro de la Rosa.

Reitero mi orgullo por mi pertenencia a este foro y de compartir con todos ustedes una misma ilusion.

PD: Haced caso de lo que os diga ABCV, que el cabron escribe del carajo jejeje.

Un saludo!

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VIVA SAN GANCHAO!!!

Edited by - Raul Leiva on 10/12/2007 22:54:10

[Tess (Star-Apell...]

sólo nos faltan 5 firmas para llegar a las 16.000.

Demuéstrale
tu apoyo a Pedro de la Rosa, CLICKA AQUI

 

[_GaIzKa_]

16.002

DARLE YA AL BOTON DE ENVIO!!!!!JAJAJAJA

Edited by - _GaIzKa_ on 11/12/2007 10:18:29

[Tess (Star-Apell...]

perate que sigo poniendo en orden lo de las firmas para enviarlo, pero no tenemos mail del webmaster, no se a donde mandarlo todo.

Demuéstrale
tu apoyo a Pedro de la Rosa, CLICKA AQUI

 

[tenista]

Dale tiempo, que ya sabes que tarda y es casi Navidad.