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Otra pagina para seguir los test en directo

http://directo.thef1.es/tests/


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Si. Parecen quitanieves tongue.gif ... pero tampoco estan tan lejos de los de hace una decena de años.

A mi me choca la altura del trasero.


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De la Rosa downplays F1 revolution

By Pablo Elizalde Monday, November 17th 2008, 14:30 GMT

Pedro de la Rosa, McLaren, Barcelona testingPedro de la Rosa is adamant Formula One will not be transformed by the introduction of radical new regulations at the start of the 2009 season.

The McLaren test driver reckons the raft of changes will help make overtaking easier, but he has warned those expecting a revolution to forget about that idea.

"Yes, definitely," said de la Rosa when asked if overtaking will be easier next year.

"Considering this is Formula One - if people think the introduction of KERS and the reduction in downforce and slicks is going to transform Formula One, then forget it.

"It will still be a wide car, there will still be aerodynamic effect and offline will stay dirty. It will be easier, but it won't be MotoGP. And people need to understand that.

"The changes are headed in the right direction. The difficulty comes from having so many changes and a massive reduction in testing for next year.

"It will make fine-tuning your car between the races very difficult. It's going to be very interesting and there won't be enough time to test everything."

Formula One cars will run a lots less downforce next year, which in theory should allow drivers to run closer to each other and overtake.

The sport will also return to racing with slick tyres, which were abandoned in 1997.

De la Rosa said the new tyres will help make up for the loss of downforce.

"It's very different," the Spaniard, testing today at Barcelona, said of the 2009-spec car.

"Obviously, the slick tyres give you a lot more grip so although we will be running with reduced downforce, the overall grip of the car won't be that different to what we had.

"But it's the balance front to rear that will change the slick tyres have a very strong front-end going into the corners and they have very good traction coming out.

"Overall, to simplify things, I think the slick tyres will give us laptime in the low-speed corners and because of the reduced downforce we'll be slower at high speeds."

Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, Barcelona testingThe McLaren driver also admitted there is still a lot of work to do before the KERS system is ready to go racing.

"We are still learning about it," he said. "It requires a lot of fine-tuning to the car especially in the braking. KERS has to recharge itself so when you press the brakes, it generates an extra resistance that you have to somehow compensate for to balance it out. That means interacting with the engine braking and the brake balance.

"You just have to find the best compromise; it's not just fitting KERS and going quicker, you have to balance it into the whole system. If you don't have it properly tuned, it will be very sudden. The difficulty will be to smoothen all the transitions."

He added: We have three tests in Barcelona, Jerez and Portimao. There's lot of new things to be tried on the car, starting with slick tyres. And we will run with tyre warmers so it will be easier to warm the tyres and control the tyre pressures.

"We will also be starting our KERS programme for the first proper test at a race track. And we will be testing with reduced downforce, running with all the body furniture taken off the (MP)23. It's all about trying to learn as much as possible within a very limited testing mileage."
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mensaje Nov 17 2008, 04:15 PM
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PDRL:"The changes are headed in the right direction. The difficulty comes from having so many changes and a massive reduction in testing for next year.
PDLR:"It will make fine-tuning your car between the races very difficult. It's going to be very interesting – and there won't be enough time to test everything."
PDLR:"It's all about trying to learn as much as possible within a very limited testing mileage."

Se me ocurre una posible ayuda para posicionarse en este entorno de desarrollo tan difícil... pero creo que llego tarde, que a Withmarsh y a Dennis se les ocurrió hace tiempo.
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CITA(` @ Nov 17 2008, 01:43 PM) *
Si los tiempos ya valen de poco, en estos tests ya ni te digo cada equipo esta con configuraciones distintas xd


Está claro que los test no suelen ser clarificadores, pero en estos por ejemplo tenemos a Buemi y Sato jugándose, en igualdad de condiciones, un volante en Toro Rosso. Por cierto, que deseo de corazón que Sato compita en 2009.


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y yo ... Banzai!! laugh.gif laugh.gif


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Y yo que corra Loeb, llueva en el 80% de las carreras, echen tierra a la pista en Bahrein y que nieve en el resto laugh.gif
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17:15 Tiempos Finales
1. Sato (Toro Rosso)-1:20.763
2. Buemi (Toro Rosso)- 1:21.071
3. Wurz (Honda)-1:21.198
4. De la Rosa (McLaren)-1:21.417
5. Paffet (McLaren)-1:21.957
6. Badoer (Ferrari)-1:22.038
7. Kubica (BMW-Sauber)-1:22.341
8. Loeb (Red Bull)-1:22.503
9. Piquet (Renault)-1.22.560
10. Klien (BMW-Sauber)-1:22.883
11. Hulkenberg (Williams)-1:23.467
12. Liuzzi (Force India)-1:23.794
13. Sutil (Force India)-1:23.832
14. Gene (Ferrari)-1:24.177
15. Senna (Honda)-1:24.343
16. Van der Garde (Renault)-1:24.908
17. Di Grassi (Renault)-1:25.512

Aunque no valen para nada, me sorprende el tiempo de Loeb. No se como era la configuración del Red Bull hoy.


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por las fotos da la impresion que es el de este año con lisos.


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segun el reporte de mclaren pedro no estara mañana



Date: Monday November 17 2008
Drivers: Pedro de la Rosa and Gary Paffett
Location: Barcelona
Track Length: 4.655km
Weather: Dry all day. Cold in the morning but bright and sunny later.
Track temperature:
Air temperature:
Laps run today: 65 (Pedro), 78 (Gary)
Kilometres covered today: 666km (Pedro 303; Gary 363)
Best lap time today: Pedro - 1m21.417 at 16:13pm
Programme: Both drivers undertook pre-2009 preparation work using cars fitted with slicks and modified to simulate '09 levels of downforce. Pedro focused on the MP4-23K - the KERS car.
Drivers for tomorrow: Gary Paffett
Duration of test: Three days (November 17-19 2008)
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El motivo es porque hara un test con el Force India.
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Yossi, aunque solo sea un test, es posible verle la temporada proxima.


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O para comparar el motor ferrari con el mercedes xd
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CITA(` @ Nov 17 2008, 06:33 PM) *
El motivo es porque hara un test con el Force India.



Yosssi por favor dime la verdad, esto que escribiste es coña o es cierto?

Te lo pregunto porque voy a por los pasteles y el cava pero a la de yaaaaaaaaaaaa.


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Tess, mira esta pagina que aunque sea el Marca.....

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/motor/f...lo/1184877.html


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yossi aunque pruebe con force india pedro estara en montmelo


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claro




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CITA(` @ Nov 17 2008, 06:37 PM) *
O para comparar el motor ferrari con el mercedes xd


menuda falta de respeto a un profesional...
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anda, como q los de mercedes van a ser tan pardillos de no aprovecharlo...


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¿Por que? unsure.gif


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