Ahora que lo pienso, la foto difumiada de hoy en la web, es del principio de temporada, la recuerdo de Valencia o por esa época; así que es posible que no la hayan modificado y la hayan pegado directamente.

Sempre Pedro! ARA SI!

Date set for Spyker arbitration case

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, October 4th 2007, 10:30 GMT


Spyker's arbitration action against Super Aguri and Toro Rosso over the use of customer cars will be heard in court for the first time on October 9.

The Silverstone-based team have challenged the right of Super Aguri and Toro Rosso to use what it believes are customer cars this season.

Following protests at races earlier on this season, Spyker took the matter to the International Chamber of Commerce in Lausanne for a final verdict.

And despite Spyker's own position in the constructors' championship being better than it was at the start of the year, with them currently ninth after Adrian Sutil's eighth place finish in Japan, the team have vowed to press ahead with the matter.

The hearing next Tuesday is just a preliminary hearing to kick start proceedings, with the day only likely to lay out a timetable for further discussions.

TOTAL.. que puede que se alargue lo hasta el fin de los dias... y mientras tanto? ¿que?...

¿que narices tiene que hacer Richards?

¿que tiene que hacer Prodrive? ¿que tiene que hacer los supuestos patrocinios acordados?

¿que tiene que hacer Pedro?... ¿Seguir esperando?...

Recuerdo que hace uno par de meses se comentó la posibilidad de competir para Prodrive o para un equipo japonés... Hojalá esa opcción a la que yo miré a Honda por la supuesta salida de Barrichello... se convierta en Toyota porque también había muchos números que se calzaran a Ralf. Por supuesto no hay ni que decir que Pedro sería alguien IDEAL!!! para TOYOTA!!!

Todo el follon de chasis, equipos clientes etc... OTRO tema mal atado de Max Capone y Bernie Corleone!!!

Así les va!!! polémica tras polémica cada temporada, generada precisamente por no clarificar normas y sancionar y juzgar a todos de la misma forma y lo jodido es que esos follones los genera quien precisamente EXISTE para zanjar polémicas y poner las cosas claras.

Salu2 a todos y...
FORÇA PEDRO!!!

Edited by - KIT on 04/10/2007 13:21:21

'B' teams must wait for 2008 cars


Oct.4 (GMM) At least two formula one teams look likely to start the 2008 season with 'old' cars.



It has emerged that both Super Aguri and Toro Rosso, viewed by some in pitlane as 'B' teams for Honda and Red Bull respectively, will probably still be using their current chassis at least for the early races of next year.



Reports have indicated that the reason for the delays, in both cases, is logistical -- with the parent outfits simply unable to prepare enough versions of their new 2008-spec models, plus spare parts, to equip a second team.



A more likely explanation, however, is the continuing uncertainty over the legality of 'customer cars' for 2008, with McLaren-Mercedes 'B' team Prodrive also yet to move ahead with its plans for its debut season.



Honda boss Nick Fry confirmed that Super Aguri would like to use an identical works 2008 car next year, but insists that the plans have only been delayed due to logistics.



"If the rules allow it, the objective would be for Super Aguri to have the same car as us next year, but that probably wouldn't be from round one -- purely because the logistics just don't work," he is quoted as saying by Speed TV.



"Even though we have substantial manufacturing capability, to turn out two teams' worth of cars in time for round one just would not be possible," Fry added.



The 'customer car' regulation hold-up may, however, be pushed along now that a date has been set for Spyker's arbitration case against the two 'B' teams.



It has emerged that the first hearing in the Swiss based Court of Arbitration for Sport will take place on October 9 (next Tuesday) in Lausanne.

Kit, yo tampoco tengo claro el tema Prodrive, y pienso que a Pedro si le saliera Toyota, u Honda, sería mejor opción, porque si os fijais, los japoneses, por caracter, suelen ser mas firmes y menos traicioneros que "otros", suelen mantener a sus pilotos, mientras hagan un buen trabajo, a veces, hasta demasiado, y tanto uno como otro necesitan un buen desarrolador de coche, papel en el que no han destacado nunca, y digo nunca, ninguno de sus cuatro pilotos actuales
Ademas poniendonos en lo positivo, si a Pedro le saliera Prodrive, al igual, un añito, para desarrollar el coche y patadita, ya sabemos como se las gastan los ingleses....
Los dos equipos japoneses, por presupuesto y capacidad, no pueden estar otro año a este nivel, han de buscar soluciones y Pedro podría ser parte de ellas.

EN MI CAMINO SOLO HAY TRES LINEAS, DOS PARA NO SALIRME, Y UNA...PARA LLEGAR EL PRIMERO.

Rafa, traducemelo un poco, por favor, mi ingles es de estar por casa....je, je..

EN MI CAMINO SOLO HAY TRES LINEAS, DOS PARA NO SALIRME, Y UNA...PARA LLEGAR EL PRIMERO.
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Edited by - manolo castefa on 04/10/2007 20:54:49

International Court of Appeal busy
The FIA International Court of Appeal is going to be busy in the weeks ahead with two cases having been confirmed. The first will be an appeal from the CSAI regarding Toro Rosso's penalty at the Japanese GP, which resulted in Tonio Liuzzi losing his eighth placed finish.

This will be heard in Paris on October 12.

There is to be a second case on October 25 regarding the legality of the entry of Prodrive F1 in the 2008 World Championship.


Menudo dia el 25 de octubre...

Joder, esto no se va a acabar nunca.

INTERNATIONAL COURT OF APPEAL
05.10.2007
:
The following hearing of the International Court of Appeal will take place in London:

Hearing

Further to the receipt of a letter from the Williams F1 team regarding the legality of the entry of Prodrive F1 in the 2008 FIA Formula One World Championship, the President of the FIA has made a referral to the FIA’s International Court of Appeal (ICA) under Article 1 of the ICA Rules of Procedure.

When

10.00 hrs
Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Where

Sidley Austin LLP
Woolgate Exchange
25 Basinghall Street
London EC2V 5HA

Decision

The decision is expected Thursday, October 25, 2007, in the afternoon.

Accreditation

Requests for accreditation must be sent by fax to the FIA Press Office (+33 1 43 12 58 18) on the official letterhead paper of the publication or other medium requesting accreditation.

The accreditation request must be signed by the Chief Editor or the Head of a Department (specify which) of the relevant publication, or medium.

The accreditation request must include the following:

i) the hearing and the date for which the accreditation is requested;
ii) name of the journalist and photocopy of his professional press card (currently valid);
iii) fax number to which the FIA can send an answer.

Applications for accreditation for the above hearing must reach the FIA before Wednesday, October 10, at noon (CET).

FIA hearing over Prodrive entry
Friday, 05, October, 2007, 09:57


The FIA Court of Appeal is to make a judgement about Prodrive's entry into the 2008 championship in a hearing in London on 24-25 October.

The case has been brought following an enquiry by the Williams team regarding Prodrive's eligibility to become Formula 1's 12th team.

"Further to the receipt of a letter from the Williams F1 team regarding the legality of the entry of Prodrive F1 in the 2008 FIA Formula One World Championship, the President of the FIA has made a referral to the FIA’s International Court of Appeal (ICA) under Article 1 of the ICA Rules of Procedure," said an FIA statement.

It is understood that the hearing is part of the ongoing debate over the role of customer cars in F1.

Prodrive was picked from a number of potential entrants to take the final spot in the F1 pit lane next season, and has been open about its intention to run a customer chassis.

McLaren has since confirmed that it is intending to provide cars for Prodrive once the team's entry is finalised.

But the deal has been held up by the continued discussions over the new Concorde Agreement - the document that sets out how F1 operates.

It had initially been thought that customer cars - which are currently prohibited - would be accepted under next year's regulations.

However some teams, including Williams, have expressed concerns about the implications of allowing teams to buy other squads' chassis off the shelf rather than designing their own cars.

The crux of the matter is not so much whether customer cars should be permitted, but whether teams running them should score points in the constructors' championship.

Spyker is currently taking action against Toro Rosso and Super Aguri, who are alleged to have run customer versions of Red Bull and Honda chassis respectively.

The Prodrive hearing will take place on Wednesday 24 October, with a decision due to be announced the following afternoon.






FIA to rule on Prodrive entry

By Jonathan Noble Friday, October 5th 2007, 09:04 GMT


Prodrive are to go in front of the FIA's Court of Appeal later this month to confirm the legality of their entry to Formula One next year with a customer car.

The FIA announced on Friday morning that a hearing had been called for October 24 to hear about Prodrive's planned entry for 2008.

A statement said: "Further to the receipt of a letter from the Williams F1 team regarding the legality of the entry of Prodrive F1 in the 2008 FIA Formula One World Championship, the President of the FIA has made a referral to the FIA's International Court of Appeal (ICA) under Article 1 of the ICA Rules of Procedure."

With teams still having failed to agree on a new Concorde Agreement for next year, which makes it likely that the current version will be rolled over for another season, there is now uncertainty about the legality of customer cars - which were due to have been allowed in the new version.

It is understood that Williams wrote to Prodrive to propose some legal arguments about the matter, and it is this correspondence that has resulted in FIA president Max Mosley referring the matter to the Court of Appeal.

Neither Williams nor Prodrive would comment on the matter.

The hearing is due to take place in London, and a decision will be announced on the following afternoon.


Edited by - ` on 05/10/2007 11:17:22

El problema para Prodrive a día de hoy, deportivamente hablando, es que esta situación genera inestabilidad, y evidentemente hay un factor importante: tiempo. Considero que a estas alturas el futuro de Prodrive debería estar más que resuelto.

Saludos,
MisilRojo.

Será esto verdad... SI es cierto ole nuestros XXXXXXX
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Por otro lado, la Federación Internacional de Automovilismo (FIA) decidirá el 25 de octubre si Prodrive F1, filial de McLaren Mercedes, puede o no competir en el próximo Mundial, tras el recurso presentado por Williams, que trata así impedir la entrada de un nuevo equipo de la escudería anglo-alemana.

Como consecuencia de los premios que reciben las escuderías en el Mundial de constructores, Williams interpuso una queja en la máxima instancia del automovilismo mundial para que McLaren no cuente con otro equipo.

Por tanto, una vez estimado el recurso, será el próximo 25 de octubre, cuando la FIA decida sobre la legalidad de Prodrive F1, un equipo que podría contar con Pedro Martínez de la Rosa, como piloto titular y abandonar así la condición de piloto probador en McLaren.

Corregidme si me equivoco pero ¿esto no se decidía el día 9?
Ahora aún tenemos que esperar hasta el 25, como sigamos asi va a empezar la temporada que viene y aún no decidieron si Prodrive puede estar o no en la parrilla 2008.


"Doy imagen de buena gente porque soy buena gente. Soy como soy, con virtudes y defectos, pero transparente. Lo que ves es lo que hay. ¿Que tendría que ser más cabrón? No lo sé. Pero no voy a cambiar ahora, con 35 años. No me gustaría ganar siendo mal tipo. Prefiero hacerlo siendo De la Rosa." PEDRO, ERES GRANDE!!!


Edited by - 8eva8 on 05/10/2007 16:53:21

Prodrive welcome FIA appeal hearing

By Jonathan Noble Friday, October 5th 2007, 16:02 GMT


Prodrive have welcomed the FIA's decision to rule on the legality of their entry to the 2008 Formula One world championship at an appeal court hearing later this month.

Following legal suggestions from rival team Williams questioning the legality of customer teams in F1, FIA president Max Mosley has called an International Court of Appeal hearing for London on October 24 to rule on the matter. A decision is due the following day.

In a statement issued by Prodrive on Friday evening, team boss David Richards said the hearing would be good in confirming his team's position and ending uncertainty that has been spread by rival outfits.

"We are in no doubt that the sporting regulations for the 2008 Formula One Championship clearly allow the use of customer cars, which is why our entire F1 proposition has been based on this fact since the outset," he said.

"However, uncertainty spread by others, for their own interests, is not only harming the development of our F1 programme, but is putting in jeopardy those of other teams already committed to a customer car programme next year.

"Over the last 18 months we have committed a substantial amount of time, money and effort into developing our F1 plans. We are now at the point where everything is in place, however the fact that some parties continue to perpetuate the myth that there is uncertainty, in respect of the rules, is having a detrimental impact on the plans for our new team.

"We therefore welcome the FIA's decision to refer the matter to the ICA, as this position needs to be clarified as soon as possible. It is not only damaging to us but to the sport in general."

Prodrive are understood to have agreed in principle a deal with McLaren for a supply of customer cars for next year, but the deal hinges on confirmation that customer cars are allowed under F1's ruling document, the Concorde Agreement - something that will be clarified at the Appeal Court.

McLaren boss Ron Dennis said in Shanghai on Friday: "We have not entered into any contract with any team at this moment of time and if a team wishes to enter the 2008 World Championship and that team does not have complete clarity as to whether it is or is not permitted to enter, then it is a matter for that team and certainly not for McLaren."

Curiosa entrevista en F1 Live con Norbert Haug, que habla de lo ultimo de McLaren y de Prodrive.

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Extracto sobre el tema De la Rosa - Prodrive

Sobre el equipo “B” de McLaren con Prodrive, no aseguró que se lleva a cabo por completo.

“Aún no está decidido, es una opción, pero no está decidido. Si al final se hace, alquilarán el chasis y el motor. Las normas las ha establecido la FIA y nosotros podemos cooperar, pero no ha sido idea nuestra inventarnos un segundo equipo”.

La opción de De la Rosa en el nuevo equipo sube enteros según avanza el tiempo.

“Pedro es fantástico y hace mucho por el equipo. Con ese asunto de los emails solo quería ofrecer la mejor información a Fernando. Ha sido de mucha ayuda, ha intentado integrar a Fernando en el equipo. Nosotros le dijimos: tú hablas español, ayúdale a integrarse y a conocer el equipo, y podría estar en el quipo de Prodrive si finalmente arranca”, dijo Haug, que negó menos categóricamente que otras veces la posible compra de la mayoría del capital de McLaren por parte de Mercedes.

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Edited by - Raul Leiva on 05/10/2007 18:33:49 [/b]

Que bien suena

Eso parece, por lo que se ve Haug es una voz bastante autorizada en este tema y no dice mas que palabras positivas y buenas sobre Pedro y Prodrive.

En fin... seguimos esperando.

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Para mi esta clarisimo que Mercedes (si no Daimler directamente) esta esperando a que se aclare definitivamente el "marco legal" de los equipos clientes.

Cuando esto ocurra habra reunion de consejo, de gente mas poderosa que Haug, que decidira si compran o no McLaren, Prodrive, y el barco del suegro de jaimito .. o no.

Y con esto decidido Haug recibira los objetivos a cumplir. Espero que entonces tendra espacio mas que de sobra para pones a Pedro detras de un volante de competicion

Bien bien bien. Esto pinta cada vez mejor. Esperemos que de una vez por todas Pedro tenga ese ansiado volante.

Gora Pedro ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ [/b]