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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 12:28 PM
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La base es sin duda la del jordan del 2005.

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Sutil not threatened by de la Rosa test

By Matt Beer Wednesday, November 19th 2008, 11:28 GMT

Adrian Sutil, Force India, Barcelona testingAdrian Sutil insists he did not feel threatened by Pedro de la Rosa's test for Force India at Catalunya this week, and remains confident he will be with the team next year.

Force India co-owner Vijay Mallya had previously indicated that both Sutil and 2008 teammate Giancarlo Fisichella would keep their drives.

However, at the announcement of Force India's new technical collaboration with McLaren and Mercedes, both parties acknowledged that McLaren were likely to recommend drivers to the team - leading to suggestions that current McLaren test drivers de la Rosa and Gary Paffett, and Mercedes DTM star Paul di Resta, could be in contention for Force India seats.

This speculation intensified when de la Rosa switched from McLaren to Force India for two of this week's three test days.

But Sutil believes the Spaniard's presence at Force India is just part of a fact-finding mission for McLaren as the teams begin their partnership.

"It doesn't worry me at all," said Sutil. "He's a nice guy. He came from McLaren just to have an idea about the car, and everything else we will see in the next weeks, months or in the future.

"I feel safe for myself. The team is happy with my performance and I have my contract here. So I don't have anything to worry about."

He said the experienced de la Rosa's feedback had proved beneficial for Force India.

"Pedro helped quite a lot with his statements and his comments about the car," said the German. "It just gave us a little bit of information about where we have to improve."

Sutil had his first taste of the 2009 rules at this week's test as Force India simulated next year's reduced level of aerodynamic grip, although the team stopped short of running the '09-style wings seen on some other cars.

He admitted that the reduction in grip had initially been hard to cope with, but felt the team made good progress.

"The first day in Barcelona was quite tricky with the new rules for 2009," said Sutil.

"So we had less downforce on the car, the new slick tyres on the car, and it makes it quite difficult to drive. The first impression was a quite oversteering balance and lots of car movements. Also, the track was very green.

"It went better through the day. The grip picked up and the stability of the car got better and better. But we had to get experience, especially with the tyres. We did some set-up work, especially with weight distribution, that ended up very positive."
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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 12:38 PM
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Sutil not threatened by de la Rosa test

By Matt Beer Wednesday, November 19th 2008, 11:28 GMT

Adrian Sutil, Force India, Barcelona testingAdrian Sutil insists he did not feel threatened by Pedro de la Rosa's test for Force India at Catalunya this week, and remains confident he will be with the team next year.

Force India co-owner Vijay Mallya had previously indicated that both Sutil and 2008 teammate Giancarlo Fisichella would keep their drives.

However, at the announcement of Force India's new technical collaboration with McLaren and Mercedes, both parties acknowledged that McLaren were likely to recommend drivers to the team - leading to suggestions that current McLaren test drivers de la Rosa and Gary Paffett, and Mercedes DTM star Paul di Resta, could be in contention for Force India seats.

This speculation intensified when de la Rosa switched from McLaren to Force India for two of this week's three test days.
Recordais ( sino recuerdo yo mal) cuando alonso hizo una pruebecita con jaguar, y al poco tiempo Pedro se fue a la calle? ;)
But Sutil believes the Spaniard's presence at Force India is just part of a fact-finding mission for McLaren as the teams begin their partnership.

"It doesn't worry me at all," said Sutil. "He's a nice guy. He came from McLaren just to have an idea about the car, and everything else we will see in the next weeks, months or in the future.

"I feel safe for myself. The team is happy with my performance and I have my contract here. So I don't have anything to worry about."

He said the experienced de la Rosa's feedback had proved beneficial for Force India.

"Pedro helped quite a lot with his statements and his comments about the car," said the German. "It just gave us a little bit of information about where we have to improve."

Sutil had his first taste of the 2009 rules at this week's test as Force India simulated next year's reduced level of aerodynamic grip, although the team stopped short of running the '09-style wings seen on some other cars.

He admitted that the reduction in grip had initially been hard to cope with, but felt the team made good progress.

"The first day in Barcelona was quite tricky with the new rules for 2009," said Sutil.

"So we had less downforce on the car, the new slick tyres on the car, and it makes it quite difficult to drive. The first impression was a quite oversteering balance and lots of car movements. Also, the track was very green.

"It went better through the day. The grip picked up and the stability of the car got better and better. But we had to get experience, especially with the tyres. We did some set-up work, especially with weight distribution, that ended up very positive."

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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 12:39 PM
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parece que antes no ha salido lo que queria decir y era esto.
os acordais ( sino recuerdo yo mal) cuando alonso hizo un pequeño test para jaguar y pedro fue a la calle al poco tiempo? cool.gif
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El test de Alonso en Jaguar fue en Mayo... y el hecho de que Pedro acabase en la calle habría que agradecérselo a Lauda, en un intento de salvar su puesto en el equipo.


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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 12:43 PM
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Si, lo recuerdo. Pero nunca entendí ni entenderé el por qué de aquel test de fernando con Jaguar en 2002, sinceramente................. unsure.gif


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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 12:55 PM
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off topic:

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Crónica del AS de esa jornada de test (31-05-2002): Test de Alonso en Jaguar.

Recordad que en la temporada 2002, en Jaguar estaban desesperados con el R3 que habían fabricado. Ya que no conseguían dar con la solución que les permitiese una evolución correcta, o al menos ser mas rápidos que su coche de la temporada pasa.


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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 01:00 PM
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Vaya si tiene miga la frase de Sutil:

"It doesn't worry me at all," said Sutil. "He's a nice guy. He came from McLaren just to have an idea about the car, and everything else we will see in the next weeks, months or in the future."

Es la primera vez que , desde una fuente no especulativa, alguien deja la puerta abierta.
Asi que venga, Miqueles del foro, ESPECULAD!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 01:38 PM
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El representante de Sutil y el propio Sutil han confirmado su asiento para 2009. Según ellos, desde FI le han asegurado esa continuidad. ¿Y el representante de Fisico? Yo no he visto ninguna noticia al respecto y creo que es bastante significativo.
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"Al Force India aún le falta, pero será mejor". Declaraciones de Pedro hoy. ¿Como sabe que Force India será mejor? ¿Como puede detallar tanto?. Creo que esto nos acerca un poquito mas al sueño.


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A Pedro también le aseguraron su asiento en Jaguar, y le aseguraron que competiría en invierno con Hamilton por un volante, y Alonso y McLaren no iban a separarse en 2008 porque había un contrato que cumplir...no siempre se cumplen los contratos ni los compromisos en Fórmula 1, es bastante claro.

Si yo fuera Sutil y Fisi estaría más que mosca.

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mensaje Nov 19 2008, 01:49 PM
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"Al Force India aún le falta, pero será mejor". Declaraciones de Pedro hoy. ¿Como sabe que Force India será mejor? ¿Como puede detallar tanto?. Creo que esto nos acerca un poquito mas al sueño.


Son solo frases, pero...... rolleyes.gif


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lo que esta claro en la forma de hablar de Pedro es que no va a ser la ultima vez que se monte en el force india.
otra cosa es que sea de piloto titular, ojala si
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Si parece que no va a ser la última vez que se va a montar en el coche... Si el coche de Force India del 2009 no estará listo hasta Febrero-Marzo del próximo año... Entonces... rolleyes.gif


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Encuesta en Marca laugh.gif

http://www.marca.com/encuestas/encuesta_81625.html


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Alguersuari ayer en tv3 http://www.tv3.cat/videos/837809 hablan un momento de pedro
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CITA(ABCV @ Nov 19 2008, 01:46 PM) *
"Al Force India aún le falta, pero será mejor". Declaraciones de Pedro hoy. ¿Como sabe que Force India será mejor? ¿Como puede detallar tanto?. Creo que esto nos acerca un poquito mas al sueño.


hombre, lo sabe, porque los de su empresa le van a poner el motor y unas cuantas cosas más... y para Pedro McLaren, siempre ha sido blanca inmaculada y la mejor fabricando de formulas del mundo.... así que, es obvio que será mejor...


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Sí, pero es que la explicación es muy sencilla, lo que hace es guardar sitio no muy lejos del post que quiere contestar, y así con calma preparar el ataque!!. Mike Rodriguez de la Fuente.
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segun tv3 pedro tiene un 85% de fichar.. en breve subo el video


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iba a decir yo ahora eso del 85, una pena lo de telecinco que hubiera perdido los derechos con estos de la sexta de momento brilla la desinformacion y las conexiones en directo que hacian en telecinco en los tests, entrevistas, etc...
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jaja yo también lo iba a decir... en realidad lo he dicho en "pretemporada 2009".. fallo mio
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