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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 12:48 PM
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Ademas, Alonso ha dado hasta 4 tandas diferentes en las que ha rodado en 1.20 en alguna vuelta. No creo que en todas ellas haya utilizado neumaticos nuevos...A mi me da que ese F10 todavia tenia medio segundito extra, algo que no se si tenia el Sauber...
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 12:52 PM
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parece que vuelve a ir bien la web griega.

10 minutos quedan para el descanso
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 12:53 PM
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CITA(rvalca @ Feb 26 2010, 12:48 PM) *
Ya no solo es cuestión de kg, si no también de revoluciones. Yo creo que todos los equipos se están guardando muchas décimas, yo diría que incluso segundos. No hay más que ver los tiempos de la clasi del año pasado:


Massa: 1.20.1
Kubica: 1.20.4

Por lo tanto después de todo el desarrollo de la pasada temporada y la de esta, los tiempos de la mitad de la parrilla deberían estar en 19's.


Por mucho desarrollo de la temporada pasada tienes que pensar que este año tenemos que meterle al coche el supertanque, que influye negativamente en la aerodinamica aunque lo lleven vacio.
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 12:58 PM
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No se si lo habréis comentado ya, pero la aleta de tiburon del Sauber de hoy es diferente a la utilizada hasta ahora, y lleva instalada la misma que en la presentación....


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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:01 PM
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CITA(Glups @ Feb 26 2010, 12:53 PM) *
Por mucho desarrollo de la temporada pasada tienes que pensar que este año tenemos que meterle al coche el supertanque, que influye negativamente en la aerodinamica aunque lo lleven vacio.


No sólo eso, además las gomas delanteras son más estrechas... y eso pica en los tiempos.


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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:02 PM
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bueno estos ya se van a comer esperemos que Pedro de 80 vueltas al menos por la tarde
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:03 PM
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CITA(` @ Feb 26 2010, 01:02 PM) *
bueno estos ya se van a comer esperemos que Pedro de 80 vueltas al menos por la tarde



llego ahora del médico con la peke...... no decia que iba a hacer un simulacro de carrera? ....
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:06 PM
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CITA(Croco @ Feb 26 2010, 01:01 PM) *
No sólo eso, además las gomas delanteras son más estrechas... y eso pica en los tiempos.


aún así, dudo mucho que pongan toda la carne en el asador!
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:12 PM
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Alonso sets dominant Barcelona pace

By Jonathan Noble Friday, February 26th 2010, 12:05 GMT

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Barcelona testingFernando Alonso delivered the perfect response to Red Bull Racing's early pace-setting form in the final pre-season test, when he dominated the second morning's running at Barcelona on Friday.

After a frustrating opening day to the test, where he had lost track time through an electrical problem, Alonso spent the second morning working on qualifying simulations to better Webber's time by a considerable margin.

With his F10 fitted with a raft of aerodynamic upgrades for this week's test, Alonso made good use of a more-rubbered in track to pull off a sequence of quick laps early on - despite one brief trip across a gravel trap at Turn 10.

His best effort of 1m20.637s came on the first lap of his fifth short run, before his programme switched to a longer stint before the lunch break. He is expected to focus on a race simulation in the afternoon.

Alonso's fastest time compares with Webber's best effort from the opening day of 1m21.487 when the track was still very dirty although it is not clear how the fuel loads of the Ferrari or Red Bull Racing car compare.

Behind Alonso, several other drivers worked through qualifying simulations as they make their final preparations for the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.

And it was BMW Sauber's Pedro de la Rosa who emerged as Alonso's nearest challenger, with the C29 maintaining the impressive form it has shown in early testing.

The Spaniard set his best effort of 1m20.973s shortly before the lunch break, to just edge out Vitantonio Liuzzi in the Force India.

Sebastian Vettel managed to better team-mate Webber's best time from the first day of the test with a lap of 1m21.258s as his morning's programme seemed to mirror what Red Bull Racing did on Thursday.

He completed a series of short qualifying-type runs, with his best lap coming in the final effort before the lunch break.

Jaime Alguersuari was fifth fastest, with Toro Rosso completing a series of short runs in the morning prior to a bit of pitstop practice before the lunch break. The Spaniard is set for a race simulation run in the afternoon.

Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton ended the morning session in sixth and seventh place on the timesheets, as they worked through various programmes which included pitstop work and some long runs.

The busiest man of the morning was Nico Hulkenberg, who completed a total of 82 laps in his Williams. The German did some short runs early on before moving on to a race simulation run. He ran a 19 lap stint before a pit-stop for new tyres, and then added a further 27 laps before the chequered flag brought a halt to proceedings.

Hulkenberg's fastest lap of 1m23.513 came right at the end of that second long stint.

Behind ninth fastest Robert Kubica, Timo Glock completed 14 laps for Virgin Racing as the team returned to the track for the first time since Lucas di Grassi's crash on Thursday.

Jarno Trulli was the slowest driver, having lost time in the morning with a seat problem before completing 35 laps for Lotus.
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:16 PM
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cronica en autosport de la mañana

Alonso sets dominant Barcelona pace

By Jonathan Noble Friday, February 26th 2010, 12:05 GMT

Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, Barcelona testingFernando Alonso delivered the perfect response to Red Bull Racing's early pace-setting form in the final pre-season test, when he dominated the second morning's running at Barcelona on Friday.

After a frustrating opening day to the test, where he had lost track time through an electrical problem, Alonso spent the second morning working on qualifying simulations to better Webber's time by a considerable margin.

With his F10 fitted with a raft of aerodynamic upgrades for this week's test, Alonso made good use of a more-rubbered in track to pull off a sequence of quick laps early on - despite one brief trip across a gravel trap at Turn 10.

His best effort of 1m20.637s came on the first lap of his fifth short run, before his programme switched to a longer stint before the lunch break. He is expected to focus on a race simulation in the afternoon.

Alonso's fastest time compares with Webber's best effort from the opening day of 1m21.487 when the track was still very dirty although it is not clear how the fuel loads of the Ferrari or Red Bull Racing car compare.

Behind Alonso, several other drivers worked through qualifying simulations as they make their final preparations for the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.

And it was BMW Sauber's Pedro de la Rosa who emerged as Alonso's nearest challenger, with the C29 maintaining the impressive form it has shown in early testing.

The Spaniard set his best effort of 1m20.973s shortly before the lunch break, to just edge out Vitantonio Liuzzi in the Force India.

Sebastian Vettel managed to better team-mate Webber's best time from the first day of the test with a lap of 1m21.258s as his morning's programme seemed to mirror what Red Bull Racing did on Thursday.

He completed a series of short qualifying-type runs, with his best lap coming in the final effort before the lunch break.

Jaime Alguersuari was fifth fastest, with Toro Rosso completing a series of short runs in the morning prior to a bit of pitstop practice before the lunch break. The Spaniard is set for a race simulation run in the afternoon.

Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton ended the morning session in sixth and seventh place on the timesheets, as they worked through various programmes which included pitstop work and some long runs.

The busiest man of the morning was Nico Hulkenberg, who completed a total of 82 laps in his Williams. The German did some short runs early on before moving on to a race simulation run. He ran a 19 lap stint before a pit-stop for new tyres, and then added a further 27 laps before the chequered flag brought a halt to proceedings.

Hulkenberg's fastest lap of 1m23.513 came right at the end of that second long stint.

Behind ninth fastest Robert Kubica, Timo Glock completed 14 laps for Virgin Racing as the team returned to the track for the first time since Lucas di Grassi's crash on Thursday.

Jarno Trulli was the slowest driver, having lost time in the morning with a seat problem before completing 35 laps for Lotus.
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:54 PM
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clubforce Lots of garage activity as team prepares for a full race simulation from 14:00 when the track re-opens
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:56 PM
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CITA(` @ Feb 26 2010, 01:54 PM) *
clubforce Lots of garage activity as team prepares for a full race simulation from 14:00 when the track re-opens


A ver si es verdad.........


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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:57 PM
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CITA(` @ Feb 26 2010, 01:54 PM) *
clubforce Lots of garage activity as team prepares for a full race simulation from 14:00 when the track re-opens


Es que tiene que ser, si o si. De lo contrarío , la simulación ya será carrera oficial en Bahrein.
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 01:57 PM
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como van los pit-stop en sauber porque en jerez no hicieron ni uno.

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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 02:05 PM
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CITA(` @ Feb 26 2010, 01:54 PM) *
clubforce Lots of garage activity as team prepares for a full race simulation from 14:00 when the track re-opens

Force India y Sauber parece que han calcado sus programas de trabajo para hoy en la mañana, esperemos que Sauber haga lo mismo que FI y hagan una simulación completa de un GP angry.gif


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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 02:08 PM
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Por qué dudáis de que Pedro y un equipo como Sauber no estén haciendo lo correcto en los test? No lo digo por nadie en concreto sino en general.

Veo una ansiedad y una especie de decepción / reproche constante hacia los programas que Pedro y Sauber llevan en los test.

¿Ellos sabrán, no?. Creo que a este piloto y este equipo no se le puede criticar por no tener experiencia o no saber qué deben hacer, me parece exagerado. Yo confío en ellos.

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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 02:17 PM
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Yo veo lógico que Pedro haga stints cortos a cada cambio que hacen en el coche. Por su experiencia él sabrá mejor que nadie cómo afecta esos pequeños cambios al coche y si es un cambio positivo o no. No creo que Kobayashi, por ejemplo, pueda afirmar con rotundidad si los cambios mejoran al coche o no.

Saludos
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mensaje Feb 26 2010, 02:17 PM
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Liuzzi esta empezando su simulacion de carrera:

26 1:27.411
27 1:27.291 -0.12
28 1:27.447 +0.156
29 1:27.261 -0.186
30 1:27.124 -0.137
31 1:27.469 +0.345
32 1:27.339 -0.13
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