will pedro ever learn to overtake cars without putting them out of the race?? Opciones

[alesi]

The race showed a lot of clean overtaking manoeuvres. Maybe Pedro should watch those before he starts taking people out!

[bmartinez]

Alesi should retire. He probably wanted to finish the race as soon as possible.

[chatarra]

Alesi was there to fill his contract.
Pedro was there to race and to prove he could go as quick as in Qualifying and during the warm-up. He knew that starting 22nd his chances of reaching 10th position were very small, not so say getting a point. However, he went out to fight. That's what he does always, that's what he was there for and that's is what he is paid for !

One is a "playboy" that has never done anything special. The other is a racer who only has one target : to win

[Logam]

Pedro is a poor man, Alesi is known for his fair play.

Pedro : after this race i hate you !!!

Logam !

[mathieu vacher]

Désolé, je parle pas bien en anglais et pas du tout en espagnol donc ... Français
Mon avis : peut-être que ce con de De La Rosa a pris son casque une taille au dessus vu qu'il courrait devant son public...
Mais il ne faudrait pas pour autant qu'il se croie pour le maestro de la F1. Je pense qu'il devrait tout d'abord apprendre à conduire, ensuite à freiner comme il faut,puis ensuite seuleument à dépasser...
Mais vu son niveau mental (qui n'est pas proportionnel à la taille du casque, ca risque d'être long

Si vous voulez répondre :
Vacher.mathieu@wanadoo.fr

[mathieu vacher]

the traduction
I think that pedro De La rosa must learn
1) to drive f1 cars
2) to brake
3) to depasse.
But i can take a lot of time, because PDLR is not very clever

[xotazu]

A todos los seguidores espnayoles de Pedro:

Por favor, tranquilidad.

No nos alteremos, no caigamos a la misma altura que ellos, dariamos una
mala imagen. Es mejor ignorarlos, no creemos mal ambiente. Demostremos que sosmo
caballeros y que no nos molesta lo que puedan decir los demas. 'El insulto es u
na declaracion de inferioridad' y a los seguidores de Pedro no nos hace falta in
sultar. Aunque insulten a Pedro no nos molestemos, asi demostraremos nuestra seg
uridad en nuestro piloto.

[Pro-Alesi]

No more to say : De la rosette is a son a bitch...

[scuba]

Please, let us be correct. Without insulting any one, it's clear there is no way to despise one of the most clever and experimented pilot of the paddock with 11 years, one of the rare able to teach to any one how to overtake properly where no one does it, and be respectful of the others like him.
Number of wins means nothing, you know it , as long as you never get the right car at the right moment. So many word champions vanished the year after a title , point box empty : the CAR DOES the champion, TALENT DOES the pilot. So alesi is not ready to retire, as behind 1 win is one of the most popular F1 pilots , doing the show every GP.
Actually, Alesi has nothing to prove now, DLR all to do, but he got the wrong way !

[roswell]

Well, i knew pdlr as a 1/8 rc racing car driver, and i reconize his style. But this time there is nobody to put the car back on the track!
*When i see Schumacher M. 3 seconds slower than his brother and what he made, i won't say that alesi made a fault.
*As it is written, pdlr was almost ahead, but almost. Alesi was ahead! Alesi didn't watch its mirror simply because nobody overtake in this corner. And, as i know, pdlr is not the future Senna!!!
*The argument that PDLR would make the entire race behind Alesi is absolutly stupid, because the Arrows were the fastest cars in the straight line and the Prost the lowest!

I am sorry for you guys who are fans of such a guy.

Roswell

[Adeur]

De la Rosa is a young driver who is doing whell. Nobody knows what he is able to do because he hadn't yet a good chace with a good car.

Alesi is an old dirver (too old) who has drived for the best teams, with the best cars, he has had too much chances to win everything, but he has won nothing (Ohh!!! Sorry he won 1 GP). Nobody has had so much chances with so little success like alesi.

Bye,
Adeur.

[chatarra]

Pedro would have past Alesi there or at any other place later on.

Pedro on his first GP ever found M. Schumacher behind. Schumi had started at the back of a grid beccause of a problem but he had one of the 2-3 most fastest cars. He caught Pedro but he could not overtake him because the track and because of the top speed. He waited. After few laps, Pedro let him pass because he knew Micahel was much faster than him and he is an sportsmen and a gentleman.
Alesi would not have resisted Pedro at the following straight or at the following corner.

Alesi fans : Alesi did a mistake that sent him to the gravel. TV images say it all. Period.

[boreton´s]

Pour mathieu vacher,
d' ou est ce que avez vous sorti petit chauviniste. OH là là!!!!
Toute la vie j´ais aimer le type de conduction de Jean, très espectaculère; mais son heure a fini.
Si vous êtes vraiment un passioner de la vous devez reconaitre la grande qualité de Pedro.
Salue.

[mathieu vacher]

pour boreton's
Mon but n'était pas vraiment d'insulter Pedro De La Rosa. aussi je pense que le traiter de "son of bitch" n'est pas tres correct, même si je pense que la faute venait de De La Rosa...
Mais quand même, De La Rosa ne rapporte pas trop la vérité : quand on tente des dépassements suicidaires comme le sien, on ne vient pas rajouter ensuite que c'est la faute de l'autre qui menait sa course normalement et dans ses interets...
Voila... Je pense que Jean Alesi ne serait pas très fiers de ses fans si ils continuaient à l'insulter ainsi

Mathieu

[boreton´s]

Pour mathieu vacher,
peut-être "la moreneta" n´etait pas le meilleur lieu pour faire des dépassement, mais les grands pilotes font ces choses de faire des dépassements suicidaires. C' est la loi des meilleurs, des plus grands, des pilotes que marque l´histoire.
Salues copain.

[mathieu vacher]

Désolé, je ne considère pas Pedro de la rosa comme "un des grands pilotes de l'histoire de la F1". Ca serait plutôt un certain jean Alesi qui aurait marqué cette époque avac prost, schumacher & co

[chatarra]

Pour mathieu,

Je n'ecris pas le français tres bien. PArdonnez-moi !

Pour quoi on dit que le depassement etait suicide? Il a vu le "gap", il allait plus vite, il l'à essayé. C'est une forme de se faire respeter ausssi. La prochaine fois, Alesi s'aura que PDLR va vite et il a du genie ... comme lui il-y-a quelques annés..

Dire que "personne passe là" c'est infantil. Personne passe a Stowe par l'exterieur et Coultahrd a passé Barrichello lá. Personne pase 2 voitures a la Caixa et Barrichello a passe les freres Schumacher. Et le depassement de Coultahrd a Schumacher? Et on pourrait continuer !!

Alesi a voulu metre sa voiture a une place o il y en avait une autre parfaitement controllé. C'est son erreur. C'est tout.

Et les images de TV, le montrent parfaitement.

Acceptez-le

[seb06]

1st race for alesi 4th place
1st race for pdr ...????

pdr is young and had a lot of things to learn .... he may be a good driver one day (see mika, he is now nearly a good driver and he used to be a very bad driver...)
but today he has a lot to learn.
Pdr is guilty, all the international (except spanish ones)press, pilots and observers agreed with that!

you can be a fan and be objective too!

By the way , why PDR have to pay to drive his arrows, it must be insulting for such a good driver ... ))

Seb06

[chatarra]

Seb06

Pedro was 6th at his first GP (australia 99), this proves he is one of the few to score on his 1st GP in the last 20 years (Prost, ALesi, Senna, Herbert,...PEDRO).

But we are not discussing this how good was Alesi when he started in F-1 and he was doing "suicidal" manouvres to overtake (remember the overtaking to Senna in the USA GP - by the way ... did you know what was F-1 then? What we are discussing is if what Jean did was reasonable or not !!

And I tell you something : you are fooling yourself if you think only Spaniards are on Pedro's side ... I think this is the opposite : onle French are on Jean's side.

Can you prove what you say? ... Well I can prove what I say !!

Don't be blind !! Jean did a silly mistake as he only knows how to do it !! Pedro is of his same stuff : they try to overtake.

Regarding your comment on sponorship ... I bet you are right : He doesn't likes to hear/read he has to pay ... because he doesn't pay.

Pedro has never paid for a drive and he has raced 11 years, has won in Spain (2 championships), in England (1), In Japan (3 championhips). OK Repsol is putting money in Arrows ... and this helped to get the seat... but what is wrong with it? Mercedes paid Jordan to put Michael Schumacher in Gachot's seat. Ralf Schumacher paid Jordan to drive. Shell paid Ferrari to contract Schumacher. Marlboro pays Ferrari to take Rubens. Before, Marlboro arranged Irvine to go also to Ferrari, BAT pays Zonta to go BAR, and almost every driver has a "godfather"!

And Repsol has a policy to help any Spanish driver/rider who races internationally : in motorbikes, in rallyes, ... even Gené could have REpsol sponsorship if they wanted !! And this doesn't mean they are bad-pay-drivers... CArlos Sainz ? Alex Criville ? Emilio Alzamora ? Sete Gibernau ?

Whatever Jean is, good or bad, whatever he was, the truth is that Jean dis a silly move and he ruined HIS race (as well as Pedro's)

And you know something : IT WAS THE PROSY THAT WENT INTO THE ARROWS : NOT THE OPPOSITE.

This says it all. Period.

[jesus]

Alesi drove a few years whit very good teams and he won ¡¡one race!!I hope someday we`ll see Pedro with this teams .I`m sure he will win more than one race.